[xzins]

The latest story is that it’s a jet leaving a contrail in the sun.

It seems to me that the angle of ascent given by the contrail, and the known location of the camera, would make it a fairly simple math question determining where this jet originated and its identity.

In other words, the jet story is bunk if you don’t also hear its identity.

To say that a foreign sub did not get close to California is to assume that no nation has developed either a system on its subs to defeat our system or a new sub that is capable of penetrating our system.

If this were the case, that launch would be a warning from someone.

There are many nations that simply aren’t capable of such a thing. The list of those capable, secretive, and invested in giving first a warning, would probably be a short list.

Those even remotely capable, imho, would be: Russia, China, Israel, Britain, Germany, France, Japan, South Korea, India, Brazil, Canada...can’t think of any others.

Those on the list with a reason to do so and a real capacity are even more limited.

And there’s always the possibility that some naval captain is going to be fired in the next few days for letting a trial launch get away from him.

[idkfa]

ZOMG!!! Another missile 24 hours after the first!

Explanation here:
http://blog.bahneman.com/content/it-was-us-airways-flight-808

[jboot]

Good to see all of you! Like they always say at funerals, we need to stop meeting like this. :-)

I've seen a lot of contrails and a lot of missile launches. My unscientific opinion is that this was a missile launch. Maybe it is a covert op or a mistake that no one wants to admit, or a threat from someone else, or someone's expensive toy (I've seen some insanely powerful amateur rockets lately.)

You can add Taiwan and Argentina to the list, too.