Pentagon Can't Explain "Missile" off California

http://www.cbsnews.com ^

[tired1]

The Pentagon Tuesday said it was trying to determine if a missile was launched Monday off the coast of Southern California and who might have launched it.

[Springfield Reformer]

No model rocket I ever played with would look like that. Perspective is difficult without reference points, so the actual size is not obvious. Military folks have probably already done a trajectory approximation and are looking for it in a likely landing zone. Don’t like that it coordinates with BHO being out of the country and all the nuclear command and control apparatus with him, not to mention the nuke defensive glitch in Wyoming a few weeks ago.

But if it’s only a show of force, then who? If China, to what effect? Don’t go through with QE2? Seems unlikely. Terrorist launch? Maybe. But again, what’s the payload? If nuclear, we’d probably already have a mushroom cloud somewhere. If biological, well, that’s just the wrong way to do that; there are much better delivery models for that sort of thing. Or perhaps it’s not a demo of the missile itself, being it’s rather ordinary, but a show of new sub technology, sort of a ha ha we got through your defense perimeters. Then maybe North Korea? Or Iran? They would have an interest in making us feel exposed. I don’t know.

[EQAndyBuzz]

Probably a 9 year old with a hobby kit who launched it off Daddy’s fishing boat.

[tanuki]

Where the hell’s Bob Truax?

[Never on my watch]

Maybe he was sending Evel Knievel’s ashes into space.

[Grampa Dave]

Shep was funny when he commented about this coverup or maybe worse, not really knowing what happened.

[martinidon]

If the Pentagon truly did not know what this was; you can bet they would have scrambled Jets and Navy warships to the area of the launch. There would have been a massive hunt going on in the area and we would all know it.

[Brett66]

Now my suspicion would be a North Korean sub, they have already demonstrated they would sink a ship for whatever reason they want.

Such an audacious demonstration would be something little Kim would relish.

[Lazamataz]

Hell, the CIA even made a computer video of how it happened.

Hey wideminded: Oh look. Someone else remembers it (though they mention the CIA).

[mrsmith]

Maybe we had info about NK plans.
They’re always launching their missiles at uncomfortable times. I hope though that we still have some boomers on patrol and Obama hasn’t brought them all in.

[b4its2late]

Related thread:

Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

[brytlea]

I think the not really knowing is making me edgy AND the fact that our govt appears not to give a flying fig (paired with the feeling that even if they did our glorious leader is not someone I have any confidence in anyway).

[Bigh4u2]

Wow!

Paragraphs are your friends!

Really!

[Never on my watch]

This missle launch just ruined the day for the Pentagon Public affairs office.

[razbinn]

The navy says it wasn’t theirs,the air force says it wasn’t theirs,the Pentagon says it wasn’t a foreign military and there is no threat to national security.So who cares where it came from,we’re safe!!!the government says so!!!!

[ncfool]

Could it be China warning the US after Obama's visit to India.

http://www.kashmirwatch.com/showarticles.php?subaction=showfull&id=1289331373&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&var0news=value0news

US Strategy to Pitch India against China

Kashmir Watch, Nov 9

By Zaheerul Hassan

President Barack Obama has announced $10 billion trade deals with India and claimed that the deal will create 53,670 U.S. jobs. He brought some of the changes in export rules to make it easier for U.S. companies to do business with the nation of 1.2 billion people. US is also relaxing control on India's purchase of "dual use" technologies that could be used for civilian or military purposes, have been top priorities for the business community. The commercial deals include the purchase of thirty three (33) 737s Boeing by India's Spice Jet Airlines; the Indian military's plans to buy aircraft engines from General Electric; and preliminary agreement between Boeing and the Indian Air Force on the purchase of 10 C17s. Though, Obama’s mentioning of trade deal and creation of jobs in US may attribute in up coming democrats' midterm election partly and also depicting an attempt of put his domestic economy back on track.

It is mentionable here that Obama also promised to support Indian nomination as permanent member of United Nation Security Council. Though, overtly the US leader’s visit seem to be a business tour but his covert agenda could be to promote and present India as second super power while pitching her against China. In this way she will be able to get her ultimate objective of hitting two birds in one stone.

Interestingly, at the same time, President Obama declared Pakistan as American’s strategic partner and deliberately avoided of making any lose statement on Pakistan’s related issues. In this connection while addressing the Common Session of Indian Parliament, he advocated the continuation of peace process between Pakistan and India. He also stressed that confrontation on Kashmir issue should be resolved bilaterally, however US can come forward as a mediator if desired by two countries. In short, India failed to achieve optimum results of threshing out Pakistan on the issue of extremisms since Obama has shown maturity by not involving Pakistan in terrorism. He asked both the countries to resolve the disputes for establishing permanent peace.

In fact, Obama exposed US desire openly while saying that the relationship between the two great powers (India and U.S) "will be one of the defining and indispensable partnerships of the 21st century." Declaring India as great power has to be translated and viewed in its true perspective. Unfortunate part of Obama’s visit is that he backed a country where millions of people have been victimized by the extremists’ Hindus and armed forces. During this visit Obama did not mention clearly about human violation of India. However, to gain more sympathies Indian government ensured that American president to stay in Taj Mehal but at the same time never been allowed or to visit Kashmir, Golden Temple and Babri Mosque. Obama said that he intended to send a signal by making Mumbai the first stop of the trip and by staying at the Taj, which was a target during the terror siege." The United States and India stand united," he said. "We'll never forget." This action of organizers of the visit is enough to show true motive of secular state (India) and so called civilized democratic country (USA). Would some out of Obama’s staff would like to clarify that why he only preferred to show solidarity with Hindus only and failed to say something on the brutality against Kashmiries, Maoists, Sikhs and Christians.

The other angle of the visit depicts that Obama’s visit would be adding tension between China-India and Pakistan. Obama has also broadcasted his underline message more openly as compare to the past i.e. making India militarily and economically strong. The American’s president visit and arms pacts with India are being viewed with concern by the China, Pakistan, Russia and Sri Lanka. An arms race, conventional and nuclear, between India and china is now gaining prominence as India is building her weapon piles increasing day by day. Some analysts have also started to view India competing with China in an arms race rather than acquiring weapons merely for defensive purposes. It is mentionable here that India is also developing her nuclear and missile system with the help of Israel and US. The UN Watchdog “IAEA’ should inspect Indian nuclear programme since it has pathetic security arrangement and could prove danger to the human lives again. Though, Indian concerned authorities are trying to tighten the security at nuke plant sites but no worthwhile improvement has been yet noticed. Recently, security was tightened in Maharashtra's Ratnagiri district after villagers clashed with officials of the Nuclear Power Corporation of India. The corporation was constructing a cluster of nuclear power plants in Ratnagiri under the Indo-US nuclear agreement. The villagers, opposing the nuclear establishment, attacked and chased away the officials who were visiting the villages to take soil samples. India is also planning to buy Israeli Missile System. New Delhi has also launched major effort to develop laser weapons for military applications. Reportedly, Indian military is working on laser weapons for deploying on its submarines, destroyers, air force fighters and transport planes.

Actually, Indo-US-Israel collaboration is emerging the world most dangerous collaboration. Few days back, US National Security Adviser Tom Donilon while briefing reporters said that Obama intends the trip to be "a full embrace of India's rise." At this occasion Indian officials Shivshankar Menon endorsed that he doesn’t think that there’s an area of human endeavor in which we do not actually cooperate.

In this connection, very authenticated reports illustrated that: (one) Israeli systems are being tested in India, (two) India is a stake-holder in Iron Dome and David's Sling systems as these are being tested in India, (two) systems have been tested in controlled environment and thus have not gained the un-questioned confidence of Indian side, (fourth) Japanese were also called for demonstration of Israeli missile systems. They remained skeptical and un-committed; (fifth)India is also persisting with its Prithvi Air Defence System PAD in order to keep its intentions are to contain China and stopped Pakistan for further developments.

As a matter of fact after disintegration of Soviet Union, uni-polar system emerged. The new great game and number of new cold wars like: Indo-Pak, Indo-China, North- South Korea, US-Iran and Sri Lanka-India have been started. The regional and global security environment has been changed drastically because of 9/11, American invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan. India took U-turn and became U.S regional and global ally against China and Russia. India in its pursuit of acquiring high technology has been making headway both politically and scientifically. Recently, Indian Defense Minister, AK Antony, to the US marked the highlight of Indo-US relation. Mr Antony had meetings with Secretary Gates, Secretary Clinton and NSA James Jones. Obama administration has been pushing India in awarding defense contracts to the American companies. Indian who is already purchasing arms to restructure her armed forces has welcomed US lucrative defense contracts for transferring high technology.

Concluding I must say that though Obama tried to adopt balanced approach while talking about India Pakistan issues but never forgotten his ultimate objective of putting India against China. The arms race between China and India would definitely going to be speed up. She already tested Agni-II, a revamped Agni-II in the Wheeler Island, off the Orissa coast. Agni-II has two stages and both are powered by solid propellants. It has several features of advanced technology. The missile, which can carry nuclear warheads, can be transported both by rail and road. Its projected range is 2750 to 3000 km. Indian second missile system Agni-III is ready for Operational Induction. According to Defence Minister Mr A K Antony, the 3000 km range Agni-III missile is ready for induction into the armed forces. The nuclear capable ballistic missile would give a boost to India's credible minimum deterrence as no other missile in the Indian arsenal has the range to strike targets deep inside China. She also carried out Strategic Weapons Storages in Bikaner, Jodhpur, Jallandar, Jaisalmer, Bhuj, Bhatinda and Barmer.

World community and US administration should know that Indian design of storage, deployment, development of nuke weapons and recently concluded defence pacts with Israel and USA are serious threats to the regional and global peace. There is a need to stop and condemn Indian aggressive nature of expansionism rather than declaring her a great power and future member of Security Council.

Posted on 10 Nov 2010 by Webmaster

[DesertRhino]

“If biological, well, that’s just the wrong way to do that;”

Biological or radiological,, but maybe the missile malfunctioned as to direction. It might not be the best way echanically to spread those nasty’s, BUT it’s a great way if you are a terrorist. After all, any concievable radiological bomb isn’t really that dangerous physically. It’s main value is the panic and fear it can spread.

And as an aside,, the Norks shot one *over* Japan. Is it really so unthinkable they would park in international waters,, and shoot a missile to the west?

I have a fear that this is FAR more serious than we might know. Great time to have Obama for a president.

[ltc8k6]

http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/

Persuasive argument for an ordinary airliner contrail.

[sportutegrl]

Probably just someone in India that ‘borrowed’ Obamas caddy with the launch codes.

[dead]

If the Pentagon truly did not know what this was; you can bet they would have scrambled Jets and Navy warships to the area of the launch. There would have been a massive hunt going on in the area and we would all know it.

I'm worried that they learned about it on the internets, with the rest of us.

On another slightly related note, a few weeks ago, somebody shot out a couple windows at the Pentagon - the global headquarters for the greatest military machine the world has ever known. Nobody was arrested or even questioned.