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So is that a "no" to providing a link to evidence in support of your contention ("but it would have happened before 1900 without a bloody failed second war of Independence")?

Automation was coming on strong - the cotton gin, steam engines and soon to come combustion engines.

You do realize that the advent of the cotton gin heightened the interest in, and the utilization of slaves, not diminished it, right?

Now, unfortunately, we have slavery to credit card and mortgage companies, slavery of hookers to their pimps, and slavery to our masters the federal government. Do you support the revolution that happened Tuesday and will continue over the next few years? Are you a rebel?

This is irrelevant to the conversation, but as you answered my question, I will answer yours. I reject your characterization of the use of the term "slavery" in these contexts as I believe them inappropriate (except, perhaps, or the hooker & pimp although I fail to see the propriety of including that!). Did I support the electing of conservatives? Absolutely. Am I a rebel? In some ways, yes.

Apparently, I struck a nerve with you guys. You are wrong, but nothing I can do will prove it to you.

Lincoln was no more a God than Obama, and he cost our country a lot of Liberty while saying he was trying to provide liberty for the slaves.

By going along with slavery, our country set ourselves up for less freedom for everyone while giving rightful freedom to a few. The lesson to learn today is that watch out when politicians pick a good cause and say they are going to help (health care, global warming, etc) solve the problem. We need to solve the issues ourselves, or liberty will be lost.

Surely, we all can agree with that.