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To: Sioux-san

You need to read up on the Balfour Decision. The Brits and Americans weren’t forced, all of a sudden, to consider relocating homeless Jews after WWII; they’d been working on the issue of a Jewish homeland since before WWI, offering Rhodesia and working to offer Utah (nixed after WWII by Truman). The Zionist negotiators wanted historical Israel which happened to be in then-Palestine. Before negotiations were completed, the Zionists, possibly rationionizing that the holocaust justified their impatience, rebeled against the UN forces and took, by considerable force, what became “Israel,” knowing that the UN wouldn’t dare deny them their victory. (So their nonaggressor status isn’t quite what you portray. It wasn’t until after the state of Israel was recognized that they earned the nonaggressor rep.) As to no one’s being forced out of Israel, however, untrue. Arabs (Palestinians), Brits, and Americans were very definitely forced out.

On the other hand, it can’t be denied that Zionist management of the area was/is far superior to anything the Arabs offered.

But Ratzinger associated with Social Justice, communists, and Islam? Surely, you jest. His current and prior reputation was earned by denouncing the evils and irrationality of all three.


83 posted on 10/31/2010 11:42:49 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Mach9

The United Nations partitioned the Palestinian mandate, setting aside part of it for the Jews. The Jews—as a whole—went of the deal; the Arabs did not. The Arab states invaded the Jewish sector to suppress their establishment of a state, and got their butts kicked. The radical Zionists used the chance to extend their control and after a cease-fire had a much larger state. As for the dispossesed Arabs, well, the entire Palestinian mandate was designed as the “Jew Homeland”—which is was, historically. But when Jordan was handed over to Feisel’s family, all Jews were forced out. Funny thing is that people are willing to accept that war always entails violence and justice, but not the ones involving the Jews. Guess they think the Jews are too cocky.


86 posted on 10/31/2010 12:32:24 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Mach9

The world was a very different place pre-WW2. For the Great White Fathers to settle the Jews in Utah or Rhodesia - wow, what a brilliant idea- go figure why no one made that happen. Obviously, I sympathize with the Zionists, and the current reality is simple: If Israel were blown off the map tomorrow, the march of the Islamists for worldwide conquest would not cease. After the Holocaust (something you never mention in any of your comments), I think the Jews put it very well - Never Again! I am sure that will get tested again in my lifetime.

On the current Pope, did you read Post #74?


89 posted on 10/31/2010 5:51:04 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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