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Mitch Daniels open to VAT, oil tax hike
politico ^ | Friday October 15, 2010 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 10/15/2010 6:17:09 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: Bigtigermike

My man Mitch has a well documented history of raising taxes to pay for expanding government, I wish that whomever keeps pushing this guy as presidential material would stop it.


21 posted on 10/15/2010 6:44:19 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: Bigtigermike

I would accept a VAT if the income tax was eliminated. Of course if he was the steward of a VAT in addition to the income tax and state taxation he should be tarred and feathered in the commons. We have no time left for taxation.


22 posted on 10/15/2010 6:49:14 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Mitch, just go sit in the corner and shut up.


23 posted on 10/15/2010 6:50:09 PM PDT by jerry639
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To: onyx

Paul Ryan is a Washingtonian....nice enough fellow, good on the numbers but a career politician. He’ll stick with anyone but Palin. That’s just the way it is with those people.


24 posted on 10/15/2010 6:51:51 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: Bigtigermike

This is why the left likes these goof balls like Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal and Tim Pawlenty. They’re not opposed to big government. They just approach it from a different direction.


25 posted on 10/15/2010 6:56:46 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Mitch Daniels just shit in his own hat. He is done.
Bring in the next RINO for his filleting.


26 posted on 10/15/2010 6:57:05 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: samadams2000

Any form of taxation is unconstitutional.


27 posted on 10/15/2010 6:58:05 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Bigtigermike
“One fully justifiable tax would be on imported oil. Any large importation of oil by the U.S. raises security problems. There are, in effect, external costs associated with importing oil that a tariff would internalize.

I suggested this to my Congressional delegation as a revenue neutral alternative to an increase in the Federal Gasoline tax--in 1986.

Had we done so then, when the oil industry was practically at a standstill, we'd have created domestic jobs, increased our domestic production and infrastructure and sent billions less to our enemies overseas.

I further proposed a phase out of the tariff as the price went up.

Unfortunately, the biggest problem with doing so today is that it would not spur more exploration and production nearly as much as the government re-opening the lease areas it has closed and putting the EPA on a short leash so it isn't preoccupied with shutting this country down with additional moving-target 'standards'.

28 posted on 10/15/2010 7:01:45 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Actually, the tariff is Constitutional. It is the “income” tax which only got in with the stuffing of the 16th Amendment up America’s keester.


29 posted on 10/15/2010 7:04:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: GeronL
Agreed. If he supports a VAT he has 0 chance of the Presidency.

This is true. Expect a "clarification" of his statement any time now.

30 posted on 10/15/2010 7:04:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I once tried to come up with an idea for a government in a sci-fi story that was funded only by making and collecting loans. Lifetime debt payments for its citizens was their only revenue.

lol


31 posted on 10/15/2010 7:07:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Bigtigermike

Tell the jackass to be honest and re register in the Communist Party!


32 posted on 10/15/2010 7:09:16 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Windflier

“If he really supports a VAT, then he’s toast with conservatives.”

I agree. I will never even consider supporting someone who wants a VAT. The VAT is the worst post tax scheme. It is a vast money maker with little visibility and accountability. The rats would go wild with a VAT.


33 posted on 10/15/2010 7:11:37 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Bigtigermike

Lower taxes and fire 2/3 of all government workers and lower the pay of the remaining ones!


34 posted on 10/15/2010 7:12:06 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: businessprofessor
I will never even consider supporting someone who wants a VAT. The VAT is the worst post tax scheme.

I lived for a time in England, and had to endure the robbery of their VAT. This was late 80's, early 90's. At the time, I calculated that it was costing me about 1/3 more to live in England, than it cost me to live in SoCal! The VAT was a huge part of that.

Any US politician that supports that kind of tax here, is going to be run out of town on a rail.

35 posted on 10/15/2010 7:19:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Point taken, but instituting the VAT tax will just be an excuse for the government to spend trillions and trillions more. The solution to the long term problem we’re faced with today is not creating another tax that punishes the people and encourages the government to spend more.


36 posted on 10/15/2010 7:24:31 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: GeronL
Attack of the Killer Tomato comes close. LOL
37 posted on 10/15/2010 7:25:40 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Thank goodness Daniels stepped in it. It was getting tiring to have to keep attacking him for selling off his highway to a (foreign-owned) company infamous for charging the crap out of people, once they get an air-head governor to sign a lease with a non-compete clause.


38 posted on 10/15/2010 7:26:46 PM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“What else would you expect from a Liberal Globalist who sold the Indiana Tollway to a foreign company.”

I’M NOT ALONE ANYMORE. I guess I’m the second person on this site that has a problem with selling off highways just to get heroin-shot of money and then claiming he “balanced the budget”...while the drivers ROT IN HELL for rest of our lifetimes.


39 posted on 10/15/2010 7:29:24 PM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels opened the door Thursday to supporting both a value added tax and a tariff on imported oil...

Thus ends -- or should end -- the Great Mitch Daniels Boomlet.

Politically, he is now (or should be) dead meat.

40 posted on 10/15/2010 7:29:43 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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