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scientists after finding almost no trace of disease in Egyptian mummies
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 15th October 2010 | Fiona Macrae

Posted on 10/15/2010 5:08:41 AM PDT by facedodge

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To: Ezekiel

I just spit coffee on my keyboard....

That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever seen on FR, and I’ve been here for years.

You didn’t even have to include a punchline —perfect!


41 posted on 10/15/2010 6:03:33 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: facedodge
Dismissing the argument that the ancient Egyptians didn't live long enough to develop cancer, the researchers pointed out that other age-related disease such as hardening of the arteries and brittle bones died occur.

Actually, nothing they found disproves this argument. Evolutionarily, it makes sense that they would see "age-related" diseases in corpses younger than the typical age of developing those diseases today: such diseases occurring at a younger age would remove those afflicted from the gene pool before they had a chance to pass on early onset forms of those diseases. The diseases that are not weeded out from the gene pool are those that occur after child-bearing has occurred. Also, isn't there a dietary component to development of those diseases? Cancer is mostly an age-related disease. Even the cancers that are not caused by age, like papillomavirus-caused cancers, typically take years to develop after the infection has occurred.

42 posted on 10/15/2010 6:08:52 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: muawiyah

There are lots of contemporary paintings. Apparently men of all classes spent a lot of time outdoors and became very darkly tanned, but upper class women stayed mostly indoors, or at least undercover and had light complexions.


43 posted on 10/15/2010 6:09:48 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Great Season Tampa Bay Rays! (Now, kindly send Carl Crawford to Boston.))
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

This would also beg the question, how has the anti-smoking hysteria affected incidence of lung cancer? Are there proportionally fewer cases now that it’s illegal to smoke practically everywhere? Or is this just another nanny-state knee-jerk that has not proven out?


44 posted on 10/15/2010 6:11:15 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: facedodge; GonzoII; chickadee; muawiyah; Vaquero; HighWheeler; cripplecreek; Yet_Again; mbynack; ...
limited to societies affected by modern industrialisation.

There's the tip off.

The professor really sees cancer as merely a symptom of the true disease: industry.

This study is just a vehicle for his prejudice.

45 posted on 10/15/2010 6:15:07 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Sooth2222

Can’t wait for the good professor to get a new grant to prove cancer is the cause of modern man living into his eighties. Hey, makes about as much sense as this last study.


46 posted on 10/15/2010 6:16:21 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Hardraade

Now that there was funny, I don’t care who ya are!


47 posted on 10/15/2010 6:25:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: HighWheeler
I’m guessing that the most ancient Egyptians didn’t live past 35 years. Non-behavior-related cancer typically takes a few more decades for it to manifest.

It's too bad the Egyptians didn't mummify those that died in the leper colonies. I'm sure more than just lepers were kept there anytime the medical experts of that time didn't understand what they were dealing with.

48 posted on 10/15/2010 6:25:57 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: facedodge

Apparently the NHS is proposing mummification as a cancer-prevention measure...provided that it’s less costly, of course.


49 posted on 10/15/2010 6:26:52 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: facedodge
It's hard to die from cancer at age 65 when you die from a septic cut on you little finger at age 30.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

50 posted on 10/15/2010 6:28:23 AM PDT by The Comedian (They Live. We Sleep.)
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To: sam_paine

The funny thing is, when you point out the true goals of the elitist leftists to the sheeperals,

they say you’re engaging in conspiracy theories.

“No, they don’t want to control where and how you live, what you drive, what you eat, how much energy you use, or whether you get healthcare - they just want to make society better for everyone.”


51 posted on 10/15/2010 6:32:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Pictures aren't always evidence. Egyptian artists, like all artists who do that for a living, show people as they wanted to be shown.

Just look for "ancient egypt clothing" on google and then select "images". The women are in tents and veils. The men have bottoms to the ground and tops to the neck, and half their arms are covered.

Given that there's no way to detect cancers to the internal organs when there are no intact organs, that leaves only forearms, faces, necks and toes for skin cancer.

52 posted on 10/15/2010 6:33:48 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Nabber

That picture of our former Commander and Chief has become iconic. The punchline that has been used with it for so many years now isn’t needed anymore.


53 posted on 10/15/2010 6:33:55 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: facedodge
politicians after finding no voter fraud in Cleveland.

firefighters before drinking diet Pepsi.

Darmok and Jilad at Tanagra.

54 posted on 10/15/2010 6:35:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: sam_paine

The first thing to know is that this is reported in a Brit paper and they’re first class liars that make American journalists seem honest in comparison.

Here’s the abstract. I don’t see any particular condemnation of industrialization.

“Cancer: an old disease, a new disease or something in between?

A. Rosalie David & Michael R. Zimmerman
Abstract

In industrialized societies, cancer is second only to cardiovascular disease as a cause of death. The history of this disorder has the potential to improve our understanding of disease prevention, aetiology, pathogenesis and treatment. A striking rarity of malignancies in ancient physical remains might indicate that cancer was rare in antiquity, and so poses questions about the role of carcinogenic environmental factors in modern societies. Although the rarity of cancer in antiquity remains undisputed, the first published histological diagnosis of cancer in an Egyptian mummy demonstrates that new evidence is still forthcoming.”


55 posted on 10/15/2010 6:45:42 AM PDT by Varda
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To: facedodge
Hmmm. It couldn't be because folks simply didn't live long enough to develop most cancers and that the young affected weren't buried in such a manner as to be preserved to test?

The better question is what was the cancer rate, not the total number of cases they've found.

56 posted on 10/15/2010 6:59:07 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: IronJack

The real cause of lung cancer, according to another Oxford research scientist, Dr. Kitty Little, is diesel fumes. And the evidence here is much more persuasive. It includes the facts that:

tobacco smoke contains no carcinogens, while diesel fumes contain four known carcinogens;
that lung cancer is rare in rural areas, but common in towns;
that cancers are more prevalent along the routes of motorways;
that the incidence of lung cancer has doubled in non-smokers over past decades;
and that there was less lung cancer when we, as a nation, smoked more.

from the posted link


57 posted on 10/15/2010 7:01:20 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (Happily Catholic)
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To: Williams
However it also appears certain cancers are diseases of developed countries. I’ve been told breast cancer is not seen in truly undeveloped countries. The best guess is the disruption of sleep cycles with artificial lighting weakens the immune system and causes breast, colon & other cancers.

That and abortion rates are likely very low and breast-feeding rates are likely very high, compared to developed nations. Both these practices have been shown to have an effect on the development breast cancer.

58 posted on 10/15/2010 7:04:26 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: muawiyah
"Pictures aren't always evidence. Egyptian artists, like all artists who do that for a living, show people as they wanted to be shown."

Except that much of such art was a depiction of everyday life, with no evidence of "artistic license".

"Just look for "ancient egypt clothing" on google and then select "images". The women are in tents and veils. The men have bottoms to the ground and tops to the neck, and half their arms are covered."

Depends on how ancient "ancient" is. I did the search you recommended, and I see PLENTY of skin. Very few "tents and veils", which, I suspect, date from the post-Islam period.

59 posted on 10/15/2010 8:10:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
Egypt has not yet had a "post Islamic" period! (Thanks for the laugh).

BTW, I limited my comment to those who had the economic wherewithal to afford full mummification. They undoubtedly spent little time outdoors laying bricks and leading cattle!

60 posted on 10/15/2010 8:15:50 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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