Posted on 10/15/2010 2:29:07 AM PDT by Cardhu
What would prompt you to post “Falsely accused.”?
What does the scientific method have to do with it? As if scientific evidence was the only kind.
****Why, look at that! Different interpretations of Scripture!****
It’s called context. Learn it.
There is a line of historical thought that Christianity deposits the first infection of liberalism in the West. Edward Gibbon is of this line and it's somewhat hard to completely dismiss.
The film The Stoning Of Soraya M is based on the true story of a woman brutally killed after being falsely accused of adultery.
The film The Stoning Of Soraya M is based on the true story of a woman brutally killed after being falsely accused of adultery.
It's not to rationalize her stoning, but to simply magnify the horror of it.
The "law" is barbaric enough, that she's innocent of the charges makes the injustice absolute even in Islamic eyes.
It needs to be shown in Iraq and broadly across the Islamic world.
For something this offensive they’ll walk off stage twice!
Yes, but if Iran wants such films to stop they should ban stoning.
That would be deemed critical of Islam, no good Muslim would ever do it.
She was falsely accused. OK, now I understand.
I wasn’t saying I was OK with her stoning. I was saying that Stoning as a way to carry out a death sentence doesn’t both me as much as others. I don’t see our new level of sophistication in killing people as something that separates us from barbarians. I’m not in any way comparing the legal system of Iran to that of America. If that wasn’t clear hopefully it is now
is this a sarcastic statement? I could easily argue that having everyone participate in the stoning makes the community accountable and COULD ensure that only true criminals are killed (after all, who wants to have innocent blood on their hands). This is clearly not the case in Iran but the concept could lead to that IMHO
Making killing clean and easy doesn’t seem to me to be the best way to ensure only the guilty are killed. As I said, making the community play a role in capital punishment makes the community accountable and I don’t think that is a bad thing.
You are right, I was playing naive in order to spark debate and I think I’ve done that. I want to be very clear that I don’t think the Iranian justice system has anything to do with Justice. My main point was that the idea of “humanely” murdering someone doesn’t appeal to me as much as others. Stoning, electric chair, firing squad all lead to the same outcome. I do however take the point that you don’t necessarily want to torture people in handing out the sentence (a point someone else made to me)
I take the point (all the I don’t think it’s sadistic as it was fully sanctioned by God). I do think there is something to having the community play a role in carrying out capital punishment though. Without that people wash their hands of what happens. If you had to carry out the sentence you would either not want capital punishment or else you’d want to be damned sure that the criminal is 100% guilty of the crime.
This approach works for those who value life (Judaeo-Christian belief) and probably not so much for those who value death (Muslims in the Middle East....Though not all I’m sure)
Excellent analysis. Concise. Practical. Artfully stated.
A decent summary of contemporary mainstream American thought. Thanks.
Stonings are done to those who commit adultery, and apparently far more common to stone the woman than the man -
death penalty cases are for particularly heinous murders. Not really the same thing.
Stoning is a painful and somewhat slow way to die, and as a Western Christian, it would seem to me to be not justice but revenge.
“He who is without sin ,cast the first stone”. I assume that you consider yourself as a perfect human being without any faults!
If a person wishes to commit adultery, that issue needs to be resolved between that person and his/her mate. No church or goverment has a right to judge them. If you were a Christian, you would realize that only God has the right to judge others on moral grounds.
I don't know what planet you're posting from but enfocing a society's morals is what government is for. And we still have laws against adultery in the US, but they are woefully underenforced.
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