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To: Mr Rogers
No Vattel did not originate the law of nations and Kent clearly lays it out from the very beginning of Roman civilization, from Plato to Vattel & everyone in between.

FYI..who were the original Roman citizens?

“Athens citizenship belonged to only people with 2 citizen parents”

“Fathers & Sons in Athens” is quite the read on ancient Roman civilization & the definition of citizen. Aristotle, while very well versed on ancient law & government & an inhabitant of ancient Rome & Athens, was not a citizen because his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth and according to historical archives, he never sought it, but he certainly respected it. Too bad you Ms Rogers can't say the same thing for our founding laws which were very clear, even before the British conquest of the original Dutch & Swedish colonies in the mid 1600's. Ms Rogers wants us to believe that those once free citizens fought a bloddy war to keep & confer subjectship from birth to every breathing soul born on American soil. Atleast we know different.

A Bill Declaring Who Shall Be Deemed Citizens of This Commonwealth

May 1779

...and all infants wheresoever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth...all others not being citizens of any the United States of America, shall be deemed aliens.

880 posted on 10/17/2010 8:54:05 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: patlin

“Ms Rogers wants us to believe that those once free citizens fought a bloddy war to keep & confer subjectship from birth to every breathing soul born on American soil.”

Still wanting sex from me? Sorry, I’m male and straight. As for “every breathing soul born on American soil”, the Supreme Court has added amity. If the parents are not diplomats or an invading army, and if they are here “in amity”, then yes, “every breathing soul born on American soil” is a citizen & is so by the natural means of being born.


884 posted on 10/17/2010 9:03:12 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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