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To: jamese777; bushpilot1; Red Steel
And your astounding and wacky refusal to accept the reality that the Founders' knew well and respected de Vattel's work is laughable.

Wow .. denying actual American history.

Tick .. tick ... tick ...

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"This 1758 work by Swiss legal philosopher Emmerich de Vattel is of special importance to scholars of constitutional history and law, for it was read by many of the Founders of the United States of America, and informed their understanding of the principles of law which became established in the Constitution of 1787.

Chitty's notes and the appended commentaries by Edward D. Ingraham, used in lectures at William and Mary College, provide a valuable perspective on Vattel's exposition from the viewpoint of American jurists who had adapted those principles to the American legal experience."

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'Samuel Adams in 1772 wrote, “Vattel tells us plainly and without hesitation, that `the supreme legislative cannot change the constitution.” Then in 1773 during a debate with the Colonial Governor of Massachusetts, John Adams quoted Vattel that the parliament does not have the power to change the constitution.

John Adams as so taken by the clear logic of Vattel that he wrote in his diary, "The Idea of M. de Vattel indeed, scowling and frowning, haunted me.” These arguments were what inspired the clause that dictates how the Constitution is amended. The Framers left no doubt as to who had the right to amend the constitution, the Nation, (that is the individual States and the people) or Legislature (which is the federal government.)"

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2,639 posted on 10/26/2010 1:59:32 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE; Red Steel

Thanks for posting page 300. You guys are good capturing images... (like the one posted from google books).. One day maybe I can understand how its done..


2,642 posted on 10/26/2010 2:21:32 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: STARWISE

If the Supreme Court of the United States showed any interest in Vattel’s relevance to Article II, Section I then I’d be interested. Thus far, they’ve not shown any interest.

Furthermore in the year and ten months since Inauguration, I haven’t heard a single member of Congress make reference to Vattel during Special Orders speeches when members can talk at length on any issue of importance to the American people.


2,644 posted on 10/26/2010 3:32:50 PM PDT by jamese777
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