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To: edge919

God grief. Are you trying to say adoption gives a stronger tie than the child being yours by blood? The parents of Elg returned to Sweden, and her father swore an oath renouncing US citizenship. The mother had never formally become a US citizen.

What part of this statement do you not understand: “It has long been a recognized principle in this country that, if a child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents’ origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that, on attaining majority, he elects to retain that citizenship and to return to the United States to assume its duties.”

Obama’s mother remained a US citizen. Obama Jr could NOT lose his citizenship by any act of his parents. Period.


1,688 posted on 10/22/2010 1:19:27 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Mr Rogers; edge919
Obama’s mother remained a US citizen. Obama Jr could NOT lose his citizenship by any act of his parents

We have yet to ascertain if Obama was ever a US citizen.

1,690 posted on 10/22/2010 1:42:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Mr Rogers
God grief.

Funny typo. Love it.

Are you trying to say adoption gives a stronger tie than the child being yours by blood?

No, I didn't make a comparison at all.

The parents of Elg returned to Sweden, and her father swore an oath renouncing US citizenship. The mother had never formally become a US citizen.

The decision makes it sound like both parents were naturalized, "who was born in the United States of Swedish parents then naturalized here." Obama's father was not naturalized, nor was his adoptive father. Because of this, we don't know if Obama was ever a U.S. citizen or not. It also doesn't address what happens in an adoption.

What part of this statement do you not understand:

I told you that the principle is disputed in WKA where it says parents can renounce the allegiance of a child. Second, this says that the child has to ELECT to retain U.S. citizenship. Obama resided here, but we don't know if he did so as a U.S. citizen or Indonesian citizen. That's why it would be helpful to see his passport and college records ... to see what citizenship he elected to exercise.

Obama’s mother remained a US citizen. Obama Jr could NOT lose his citizenship by any act of his parents. Period.

Wong Kim Ark and the State Department page on adoption says otherwise. Deal with it.

1,691 posted on 10/22/2010 2:00:39 PM PDT by edge919
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