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To: Danae

It all looks good to me. I have one question. IF you wanted the same thing with a seal, will they give it to you and if not, WHY NOT? Is the State of Hawaii playing games to protect Oholio?


1,588 posted on 10/21/2010 7:28:55 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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To: mojitojoe

I have no reason to think that they would NOT give it to me. Onaka asked if I wanted a certified one, and I answered honestly that I didn’t know. So he made a choice and sent out a black and white one. I don’t even know if he checked with the organization or not.

All I know is that I spoke to him late in the afternoon here on the 27th (so mid afternoon in Hawaii), and that on the 28th the receipt is dated and printed, and on the 30th it got a postage stamp put on it and off to me it went.

Because he asked me which I wanted, I can only say that he gave me a choice based on what I needed. I didn’t know what I needed. I assume (cringe) that I can call his office again and say that I DO need the certified copy, and he can use the FIRST request and fee I paid that they never filled. I am betting its in the same stack that my second request was found in.

I made the First request in May. My father passed away on June 24th. Between mid may and the beginning of July, I was at my parents house almost more than I was at home. I was also in the middle of classes and trying to stay caught up. I dropped the issue during all that.

In August, I realized that it had not arrived so I called HDOH to find out what was up. I was told they didn’t have it. So I sent in another form with all the stuff they asked for, and followed the instructions I was given to the letter.

Nothing from HDOH after 6 weeks so I call again,. and again am told they can’t find it.

At that point I demanded to speak to a supervisor. Someone else comes on the phone, and I tell the story again. Finally she sends me to Onaka’s office. Upon talking to the lady there, she went off to go search to find it. She finds it. It was in Onaka’s office with others. She said that he had apparently not gotten around to it. She tells me he is out of state for the week. Long story short, I end up talking to Onaka the next week when he got back. The next day the black and white was printed out.

Could I get a certified one, I am rather certain I could. It is required by law that it be provided to me upon my request.

There is no wiggle room in that. HDOH claiming the ONLY EVER send out COLB’s MIGHT be true in the course of normal business. BUT... they can and indeed HAVE to send out what ever records that the person requests when they have interest in the documents.

HDOH could EASILY produce a Long Form Certificate for Obama upon his request. Certified or not, this proves that it can be done.


1,609 posted on 10/21/2010 8:53:36 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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