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To: traditional1

No, WKA was NOT a naturalized citizen. A law of Congress would not override the treaty with China - only the Constitution did that. So WKA needed to be a citizen per the Constitution, which the court found he was since he A) qualified as a natural born subject and thus a natural born citizen, and B) a citizen per the 14th amendment.

Perkins v Elg did NOT say “”Natural Born” has been found to be “born of two U.S. Citizen parents”.” ON the contrary, they used native born and natural born citizen as interchangeable. See the thread I did on this case a while back:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2499682/posts

For example, they quote the Attorney General “”Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen. There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of twenty-one, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States” using native born to mean someone who can be President.

Again, their findings include:

“Fifth. The cross-petition of Miss Elg, upon which certiorari was granted in No. 455, is addressed to the part of the decree below which dismissed the bill of complaint as against the Secretary of State. The dismissal was upon the ground that the court would not undertake by mandamus to compel the issuance of a passport or control by means of a declaratory judgment the discretion of the Secretary of State. But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg “solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.” The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U. S. 227), declared Miss Elg “to be a natural born citizen of the United States,” and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary’s discretion with respect to the issue of a passport, but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship.”

And you DO realize that there have been many people born in the USA who were not born in a hospital, nor have a long form certificate of birth. In fact, it used to be quite common.

But at this point, it is not up to Obama to prove he is President, but for someone else to provide convincing proof that he cannot be President.


148 posted on 10/13/2010 6:15:42 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Mr Rogers
"But at this point, it is not up to Obama to prove he is President, but for someone else to provide convincing proof that he cannot be President."

Who can be "that someone", when Courts have stonewalled petitioners as having no "Standing" to bring a case? It doesn't bother the Courts that ANY U.S. Citizen who has had this FRAUD perpetrated upon them is ruled to have no dog in this fight.

In reality, any document/legislation/Executive Order, or even orders to military as "Commander-in-Chief" should and would be found to be un-enforceable because they were FRAUDULENTLY applied due to an ineligible FRAUDULENT Office Holder, should such documentation come forward and show non-Natural Born and Constitutionally-ineligible having been the Case. However, due to riots in every inner-city in the USA, backlash from Leftists and the State-Run-Media, the ISSUE of Natural Born Citizen cannot see the light of day, as the Courts will not allow it to be litigated, nor can a convincing re-visiting of the term "subject to the Jurisdiction thereof" in regards to Anchor Babies be argued, either.

(I purposely did not bring up the FACT that the parents of the in-question child were NOT LEGALLY MARRIED, which is another issue that leads to NON-Natural Born Citizen implication, too)

167 posted on 10/13/2010 6:57:45 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama go:nna take care o' me!)
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