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CONFIRMED: Court Did Rely on Oath Keeper Association to Take Baby
Oath Keepers ^ | October 11, 2010 | Stewart Rhodes

Posted on 10/11/2010 11:03:09 AM PDT by Sopater

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To: sam_paine
Santa Anna sent a professional army after the rebels ~ and they whuthed him.

But that was before the germ theory of disease had been worked out.

Remember, we know more stuff these days so the milk vending question really isn't about "milk", it's about "milk" and all the other things that get sold with it ~ those germs I listed.

They'll kill you, or if not you, any of your babies the Democrats haven't already taught to smoke.

When you guys decide that it's time to roll things back to the 1700s be sure to destroy the microscope so's we can't find out what you're doing to us, OK? Best to go into oblivion and death totally devoid of knowledge.

41 posted on 10/11/2010 12:17:29 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
That image is a combination of two documents: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/11/confirmed-court-did-rely-on-oath-keeper-association-to-take-baby/ "...There has been some confusion about this case, leading some commentators to believe that the reference to John Irish’s “association” with Oath Keepers was in some other document, rather than in the affidavit relied on by the Court’s Order. Alex Jones’ site, in an effort to protect the privacy of the family, posted excerpts from two different documents, leading some to question where the reference actually was.

To clear that up, below you will find an embedded PDF which contains the full (though redacted) versions of the following documents: the two Petitions (one pertaining to each parent), the Court’s Ex Parte Order, the Affidavit of Dana Bickford which was attached, the Motion for Change of Venue, and lastly, the Notice to Accused Parent, explaining the legal process. We have highlighted in yellow all text where the Petitions or the Court Order refers to the Affidavit which contains reference to Oath Keepers.

By looking at the below documents, you will be able to see from the two Petitions, the Order, and Affidavit item #7, in that order, that:..."

42 posted on 10/11/2010 12:19:02 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: sam_paine

Well I will just accept that the Oath Keepers want to stay tied to this guy.

Do they have an attorney?


43 posted on 10/11/2010 12:19:33 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Agreed, the redacted portions could claim the guy eats human flesh. I could care less. The fact that someone smeared a group of people politically in this court document, needs to be dealt with.


44 posted on 10/11/2010 12:20:04 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: freedomwarrior998
I think there are three factors here.

1) Irish has a lot of problems and there seemed to be some probable cause in play.
2) The mention of Oath Keepers was tangental to the larger issues leading to the baby being taken, but
3) CPS had no business mentioning Oath Keepers, and Oath Keepers is right that it puts a chilling effect on freedom of association.

45 posted on 10/11/2010 12:20:19 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: muawiyah

WTH are you talking about?


46 posted on 10/11/2010 12:29:01 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Sopater

Given Irish’s lengthy criminal/police record, and given the rest of the serious allegations in the affidavit, Oath Keepers (to which I also belong) should seek to have their name removed from this affidavit for two reasons.

1. Oath Keepers is not an organization seeking to “take up arms” and should not be painted with a “radical” image. They are seeking to keep politicians and political appointees honest and following the constitution and seek legal means to do so.

2. Oath Keepers does not want bits name in any way associated with Mr. Irish.

Oath Keepers should use every legal means possible, IMHO, to accomplish these goals. IMHO, Oath Keepers should add a stipulation to it’s joining...that an individual has not been convicted of a felony or is not under any current felon investigation. Probably should add any kind if child abuse conviction or investigation as well.

If they successfully clear up the investigation, join then.


47 posted on 10/11/2010 12:36:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

additional:

Couple: State took our baby (Oath Keepers)
Concord Monitor | October 9, 2010 | Daniel Barrick
Posted on 10/09/2010 10:37:39 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2604542/posts


48 posted on 10/11/2010 12:43:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: sam_paine
Re;#14,

Sam, excellent analysis, and really hard to answer questions. I can't give satisfactory answers.

I also can't figure why there isn't about 90% of public employees enrolled in Oath Keepers. What is it about these people that they would rather take orders from the likes of Janet Reno, or Eric Holder, rather than the Constitution it's self? Civilians don't have to shut up like the military, yet nobody will man up.

49 posted on 10/11/2010 12:48:14 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Jeff Head
Oath Keepers should use every legal means possible, IMHO, to accomplish these goals.

Excellent, Oath Keepers has been slandered by CPS.

Additionally, Oath Keepers did not solicit Mr Irish to join.

Oath Keepers are entitled to select worthy applicants and should require applicants to be worthy.

50 posted on 10/11/2010 1:01:14 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Typical Child Protective worker. A bunch of feminazi, male bashing, put-your-kids-on-ADHD meds, and shut the father out of the children’s lives agenda.

Fighting REAL child abuse, that which is found in the HOOD is too dangerous and politically incorrect.


51 posted on 10/11/2010 1:46:34 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU
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To: Sopater

Danger, Stewart Rhodes! You’re being had.

This man Irish is unemployed - neither a policeman, fireman, or military member - and has abused the married woman he lives with AND her two older children. He assaulted and battered this woman while she was pregnant.

Has it occurred to anyone that this just might be a setup used to tarnish the reputation of the Oathkeepers?


52 posted on 10/11/2010 1:54:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: George from New England

I vote no retention every time I get a ballot—to date ,here in Colorado I’ve never seen a Judge removed that I know of.


53 posted on 10/11/2010 2:20:34 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I suggest everyone take another look at this document. At the end of each point numbers 1-5 there is a semicolon which indicates the sentence is continuing until we get to number 6 which ends in a period.

Together with the fact the item 7 looks pasted in and item 6 ends the sentence, I would be very skeptical that 7 is in the original.


54 posted on 10/11/2010 2:23:49 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: SatinDoll

today’s definition of assault and battery in the feminazi NOW gang domestic violence industry is an extreme glowering at a woman.


55 posted on 10/11/2010 2:23:58 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU
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To: AbolishCSEU

DOes anybody have this document PDF

WITHOUT my having to make a scribd account.

A download is loaded with privacy baggage from that amazon entity.


56 posted on 10/11/2010 2:49:35 PM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: AbolishCSEU
Since the State of New Hampshire had already seized two of ‘Miss’ Taylor's children and investigate John Irish for abuse of those kids, and ‘Miss’ Taylor's actual husband was trying to get his two kids back, don't you think this has more to it than the machinations of NOW gang feminazi’s domestic violence industry?

I haven't forgotten what happened in Michigan to a group of so-called violent militia and the judge who threw out the case as baseless. It was an attempt to smear militias.

In this instance I smell a rank situation, just a few weeks before an election, that stinks of politics.

Maybe John Irish is innocent and being used, then again maybe not. But I see this as an attempt to smear the Oathkeepers by using this man, Irish. He doesn't come anywhere near to the quality of people I know are members of that organization.

57 posted on 10/11/2010 3:26:09 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Sopater

This kind of story is geared to getting us worked up, folks. I’m not even going to read about it anymore. Maybe the father’s abusive, maybe the family’s dysfunctional, I don’t know, and I don’t trust any journalist to tell me the straight facts.

That said, if I were the judge in this case, I wouldn’t even allow an affidavit in the record that mentioned the father’s assoc with Oath Keepers. It shouldn’t be in there.

For the record, some of the lowest opinions I have EVER had, are of CPS and their ilk. Only in the most extraordinary circumstances should any govt entity be taking someone’s children away.


58 posted on 10/11/2010 3:29:18 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( A window seat, a jug of elderberry wine, and thou.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Why does point 7 appear to have a different font?


59 posted on 10/11/2010 3:32:28 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

Why does point 7 appear to have a different font?

...and alignment....


60 posted on 10/11/2010 3:34:28 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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