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To: kiryandil
I think the round in the pipe question is a useless approach here, simply because any firearm [or toy for that matter] pointed at a cop is grounds for gettin shot...

the fact that curly was close enuff, and actually did reach out and touch scott, and noticed his 'bloodshot' eyes without noticing that the pistol was holstered is more problematic for me...

that and the chaos of a mass evac, which triggered [sorry] the hasty confrontation...

that and the fact that helos and swat and everybody but the friggin maytag repairman was called out because a pu%%y costco employee wanted to be a badass...over a legally carried pistol...and dont even get me started on 'legally'...

202 posted on 10/06/2010 8:45:22 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3
I think the round in the pipe question is a useless approach here, simply because any firearm [or toy for that matter] pointed at a cop is grounds for gettin shot...

This is true.

BUT! Metro, and Metro's defenders, including Moonman62, have taken that fact as carte blanche to pretend that Erik Scott's gun WAS loaded.

I'm not going to let them get away with it any more.

You'll notice that Moonpie simply won't answer the question or respond to it in any way - because if it was unloaded, then Erik Scott KNEW it was unloaded, and what he was doing was just handing over a harmless piece of hardware, as ordered. And Mosher committed manslaughter - shooting an unarmed man down like a dog.

Furthermore, unless there was an objective observer to watch as Scott's gun was checked for a "round in the pipe", it must be presumed that Metro is willing to lie about it.

206 posted on 10/06/2010 9:01:47 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: Gilbo_3

>I think the round in the pipe question is a useless approach here, simply because any firearm [or toy for that matter] pointed at a cop is grounds for gettin shot...

While I find your posts to be interesting and/or well-reasoned the usage of ‘any’ here, when applied to a toy, means that any kid pointing his Buzz Lightyear Laser Blaster-Cannon (or even a GI Joe’s gun) at a cop has forfeited his life.

On a thread where the minutia of legalities/justifications are being used or examined precision/accuracy is of utmost importance.... and I’d rather not give the police even theoretical justification for killing a kid who was playing with a toy on *ANY* scale larger than the case-by-case basis.


225 posted on 10/07/2010 9:00:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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