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To: Mr Rogers
One other point - I’ve been in combat. I’ve been shot at. I didn’t just start shooting back. Know your target. Know the ROE and comply with it. Discipline!

It is something Mosher doesn’t seem familiar with...

Mosher complied with the laws of Nevada and his training based on the information he had. Mosher identified the person who was known to him to be armed, under the influence of drugs, and threatening. He gave the person a chance to comply with verbal commands. The person didn't comply, but went for his gun and pointed at Mosher. Mosher fired at the center of mass, which reduces the chances that a bystander will be hurt. The other officers also fired at the center of mass until the threat was ended (sometimes the suspect has another weapon). The threat was ended and no bystanders were hurt. The jury at the inquest made a unanimous decision (though unanimity was not required) in less than two hours that the shooting was justified.

156 posted on 10/06/2010 8:21:46 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average.)
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To: Moonman62
did you type all that with a straight face ???

Mosher complied with the laws of Nevada and his training based on the information he had. Mosher identified [ a random guy in a chaotic crowd]

the person who was known to him to be armed, under the influence of drugs, and threatening [he had NO knowledge of the 'armed', nor did he observe scott for any length of time to determine 'high' or threatening']

. He gave the person a chance to comply with verbal commands [all of what, 1-2 seconds ???]

. The person didn't comply, but went for his gun and pointed at Mosher [says what percentage of witnesses ???]. Mosher fired at the center of mass, which reduces the chances that a bystander will be hurt [point blank, arms length as he had just touched scott].

The other officers also fired at the center of mass until the threat was ended [reflexive 'thin bloo line BS]...

(sometimes the suspect has another weapon). The threat was ended and no bystanders were hurt [By the Grace of God !!!]. The jury at the inquest made a unanimous decision (though unanimity was not required) in less than two hours that the shooting was justified.

LVPD still battin 1.000% since '76...maybe they should put that on their cars, swat vans, helos etc...

172 posted on 10/06/2010 9:49:09 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Moonman62

“Mosher complied with the laws of Nevada and his training based on the information he had.”

WRONG! Mosher ignored the most important evidence - WHAT HIS EYES SAW!

By every account, Scott was leaving quietly. Not one witness says Scott was acting in a threatening or hostile manner.

To go from “Is he the suspect?” to opening fire in <6 seconds, Mosher HAD to ignore the most important piece of evidence - what he saw: a man walking out of Costco, no gun in hand, no weaving around, no shouting, no panic among the customers - NOTHING to indicate he was dangerous.

SIX SECONDS before Mosher fired, he couldn’t even tell who was the suspect! And the physical evidence leaves no doubt that Scott had no intention of killing anyone - gun in holster, carried condition 1, hammer down.

So how did Mosher get from “No one stands out” to “I must shoot” in less than 6 seconds? Here is a hint - it wasn’t Scott. Scott didn’t have time. If you were walking out of a store feeling innocent and law abiding, and a cop shouted “Get down!”, would you be on your knees in 2 seconds?

If not, then a Nevada cop “compl[ying] with the laws of Nevada and his training based on the information he ha[s]” can shoot you dead. Justifiably. And as a number of LAPD officers have said before, they can say, “I thought he/she had a gun...”

Again, I haven’t gone back and tried to confirm the time line...but IF it is correct, then I doubt Scott ever got the gun in its holster pointed towards the cop. It takes me 2 seconds on a good day to get the holster off, and 2 seconds was all he had. Yes, I know there is witness testimony that he pointed a gun at the cop. I also know that most accident witnesses say they saw the plane in flames, even when there was no fire. Witnesses, like cops, sometimes see what they expect to see, and no one expects to see a cop shoot a man with a holstered gun - but Scott’s gun was found in the holster.


187 posted on 10/06/2010 5:40:13 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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