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To: pinochet; Billy the Mountain
Sobran can be accused of insensitivity to Jews and Israel, but he never crossed the line to overt anti-semitism in his comments, the way David Duke does. Buckley fired Sobran from National Review for insurbodination, after both men fiercely disagreed over the first Iraq War of 1991. Sobran wrote a long essay later in 1991, describing the dispute that led to his firing. Both men reconciled before Buckley’s death in 2008, and Sobran had a very nice column about his former boss at his passing.

Sobran most definitely did cross into explicit antisemitism. In The Church and Jewish Ideology, Sobran blames communism and leftism on Jews and the Talmud, despite communism being anti-Jewish. (Marx and Sobran's antisemitms is not that disimmelar. They want to end Judaism and wretched Jewishness by having Jews convert. Of course, Marx Wanted Jewish to become communists.)

Sobran's “For Fear of the Jews” was a speech given at a Holocaust Denial conference for IHR. There Sobran tries to redefine antisemitism out of existance and paint those who dislike Jews as victimes of Jewish power.

Sobran didn't like any Jews, except those that converted.

88 posted on 10/01/2010 4:02:53 PM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: rmlew

>>>>They want to end Judaism and wretched Jewishness by having Jews convert

America’s largest Protestant denomination, the Southern Baptists, have been working hard for the past 15 years to convert Jews to Christianity. Do you consider the Southern Baptists to be anti-semites? Most Christians do not think so. Abe Foxman does: http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ChJew_31/4798_31.htm

>>>>Sobran’s “For Fear of the Jews” was a speech given at a Holocaust Denial conference for IHR. There Sobran tries to redefine antisemitism out of existance and paint those who dislike Jews as victimes of Jewish power

By the way, Sobran had Jewish friends, who helped him in his time of need. The Sobran speech that you link to, contains this important quote:

(”If I were to hate Jews en masse, without distinction, I would be guilty of many things. Obviously I’d be guilty of injustice and uncharity to Jews as human beings. I would also be guilty of willful stupidity. More personally, I’d be guilty of ingratitude to my benefactors — which Dante, in his Inferno, ranks the worst of all sins — since many of my benefactors, in large ways and small, have been Jewish”

“Moreover, I would be becoming exactly the man my Zionist enemies would like me to be; a man like them, in whom ethnic hostilities take priority over all other values and considerations. I would justify them in treating me as an enemy. In fact I’d go so far as to say that I would be helping to justify the state of Israel. I consider that if I fight these people on their terms, they have already won”)

As a supporter of Israel, I did not agree with Sobran’s opinions. But there was a line he did not cross on the Jewish issue, that separated him from David Duke, Willis Carto, and William Pierce.


93 posted on 10/01/2010 5:00:44 PM PDT by pinochet
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