IBTZ.
Posted on 09/26/2010 9:19:11 AM PDT by GOPavenger33
I agree. The sniping is ridiculous.
IBTZ.
I strongly object to your saying that Social Security and Medicare are part of the welfare state.
I worked long and hard and contributed big bucks to both those programs. It's not my fault the politicians can't manage money worth a damn.
Midicaid, absolutely yes, that's welfare, paid for by you and me to mostly shiftless losers who've never contributed anything.
Check out his source. It a Leftist propaganda outlet. You are know by the company you keep.
This next congress certainly won't have any such power.
Wait ... is that a ship I see on the horizon?
Nothing in life but God is ever perfect.
Sure the Pledge is not perfect but nothing in life ever is.
This habitual pouting for perfection from the always bitching caucus of Feeper purists is really childish.
This document, imperfect as it is, is only 100% better then anything we have gotten out of DC since Reagan was President.
And yes, that includes the 1994 Contract.
For example, this document, as imperfect as it is, is a whole lot more specific on what the GOP plans to do to reign in spending then the Contract was.
I don’t believe “conservatives” are complaining. I think the more accurate word would be “malcontents”. They bitch about everything. The Pledge with America is a good, solid move.
LOL
Sure it is. Everyone knows which publications on the right are mouthpieces for the GOP establishment and NR is on that list.
But the aide said that many in the Republican caucus don’t believe Boehner, House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, or any other members of the leadership actually want a ban. “Once we’re in power they’ll say, ‘Let’s find a reasonable way to earmark,’ which of course the Tea Party will see as total capitulation. Most people around here don’t realize the extent to which Joe America sees earmarks as the poster child for out of control Washington spending,” the aide said. Another aide who was present in meetings to draft the document agreed: “They already have an earmark moratorium, and not to continue that is a pretty huge flag that they want to get back into the earmark business.”
Pretty much. It's exclusion plus Cantor talking openly about not banning them entirely tells me everything I nee to know about how serious they are about cleaning up their act. It's not even just about earmarks, other then that would send a very clear signal they were serious. Legislators not appropriating money for pet projects to buy votes? You only give that up permanetly if you are serious about living by the principles you are campaigning on.
The House conservatives shouldn't fret too much about the Pledge though. The only people praising it are insiders. My feeling is that all those people they fear who have been staging primaries, well, they threw it in the trash. After the election we're going to make the rules. And if they don't follow them, they are going to have the same heat plced on them as the Democrats. I hope Republicans like townhalls and thousands upon thousands of phone calls and their so called "base" educating the indepedents on their betrayals...cause I'm not covering for any of them anymore.
“Conservatives denounce GOP ‘Pledge’ as sellout, inside job”
One needs to believe this!!!
I was suspicious of it and didn’t like it from the beginning.
The US political Old Guard, like you, is still refusing to open their eyes and see what is going on. They still think of this as just another round in the political game. They still do not realize this is no longer a game, this is war.
The Republic is in danger.
Never in our history has this nation been governed by a group so fundamentally at odds with the values and the beliefs of the average citizen as the 0 Democrats. In every other election the two sides shared some common values that linked them all as Americans. That is not the case this time. This time it is the Americans vrs the Anti Americans. Between those who value the exceptionalism of the USA and those who wish to destroy that exceptionalism and remake it in the style of a European Democrat Socialist country.
The political old guard persists in thinking of this as just another election, just another round in the game where everyone shakes hands afterwards and gets on with business as usual. That is not at all the case.
This is not the time for the usual suspects to mindless cling to their old purists dogmas. Right now the GOP is the only viable option that can derail the 0 Democrat machine. Anyone spending all their time shooting, what is suppose to be their side in the back this election, is actively working for the 0 Democrats.
We are now engaged in a remorseless revolutionary struggle where by either the Republic is restored or it is forever lost.
This struggle is not going to end with the elections in November, this struggle will be going on for years.
In that struggle there is no middle ground. One is either on our side or against us. I know that is really hard for the Hate-the-GOP-Always 3rd partybots around here to cope with but that is the current reality in US politics
IBTZ
It disturbs me to see them not going after the federal bureaucracy hammer and tong. Federal worker number of jobs, average pay vs. private sector, COLAS, munificent benefits and job security, early retirement,pensions, % of stimulus dedicated to save government jobs at federal, state, county levels, etc., etc. Projected growth of federal employees with the mammoth bureaucracy of the health care legislation, including major expansion of IRS. Tie it together with Gerald Fords’ “A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.”
They're going to be out in force bigime between now and November.
The pledge is nothing but a piece of paper. I’m glad that thrills your heart but we’ve been there and done that. Actions are the only thing I’ll trust.
As for earmarks, they certainly seem to recognize how symbolic they are to the public of corruption. It’s why they banned them for a year to run on for their election. After election when they assume they’ll have the house back they are talking about getting rid of the ban. It’s nothing but an election stunt on their part.
I should warn you if for one minute you think we’re going back to the 2000-2006 model where conservatives were intimidated into shutting up and taking “less” bad concessions all to maintain “R” party rule you are going to be rudely surprised. The caucus is going to be pushed, and they are going to be pushed hard and your own whining about the whining is going to be laughed off this board.
Otherwise they’ll go back to the usual of promising things will get better while doing little is nothing to make it so.
I don’t like the pledge because it’s not conservative enough and because it doesn’t include U.S. Senate candidates. They should have promised to cut all federal tax rates to the 1988 rates, or lower. That would remind voters of the great economy of the 1980’s.
The Republic is in danger, we have no time for these sort of anonymous back stabbing propaganda plays.
We need to keep our eyes on the ball.
Stop the 0 Democrat machine 1st. The rest we can work out after the elections
Conservative need to keep there eye on the ball. The primary mission is to stop the damage the 0 Democrats are doing. Like it or not the GOP is the only viable option we have to accomplish that right now.
Anyone, like this poster, that actively works to undercut the GOP in the next 38 days is, in effect, working to help the 0 Democrats on 11-02.
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