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Officer in Costco shooting says man raised gun, didn’t know it was in holster
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 23 Sept 2010 | Cara McCoy, Dave Toplikar

Posted on 09/24/2010 9:34:59 AM PDT by Mr Rogers

This comes from a Vegas paper, so I'll summarize:

Day 1 of the inquest into the police shooting of Eric Scott at a Las Vegas Costco emphasized the large amount of prescription painkillers found in his body. The assistant DA suggested Scott was suicidal.

Day 2 apparently spent a bunch of time explaining why there will be no video...basically, the machines weren't working, sorry.

Then the cop who was closest to Scott testified. In his testimony, he says the gun found by investigators was in its holster, and that he didn't realize the gun was in its holster when he shot Scott. That info comes about 2/3 of the way into the article:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/23/officer-deadly-shooting-says-man-pointed-gun-didnt/

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; costco; donutwatch; erikscott; morphine
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To: smokingfrog

Thank you for posting that. So they do think they’re going to get away with it. I hope not.


301 posted on 09/24/2010 2:32:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Mr Rogers

BTW the dog he pointed the gun at, was later taken away from its owner after it almost attacked another person. Something I read in all of the stuff online from the inquest. Looks like that was a bad dog to start off with.


302 posted on 09/24/2010 2:33:04 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
According to Scott's father's blog, he's shot THREE PEOPLE, killed two(a burgler in 2006), in the past five years.

While each shooting should be judged independently, it would seem only Hollywood cops do as much shooting.

IMO, I would be questioning Officer Mosher's state of mind going into these situations.

303 posted on 09/24/2010 2:35:48 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: OneWingedShark

You do realize that your argument could as easily apply to Congress, I hope.


304 posted on 09/24/2010 2:35:59 PM PDT by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
As for your “proof” ... this ain’t a court. I’ve got all the “proof” I need to apply the label.

No. You don't. Name calling is childish just because someone has actually read everything there is on this and you have not.

305 posted on 09/24/2010 2:37:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Thank you, and if you need to escape such same persecution;

"I move for a motion to dismiss in anticipation of subrosa subject matter jurisdictional discrepancy".

Like celibacy, it works every time it's tried!

306 posted on 09/24/2010 2:37:44 PM PDT by yesca (..belief is the enemy)
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To: OneWingedShark

Those responsible for making, executing, judging or enforcing the law MUST be held to a higher standard, and not a lesser one, as their apologists would prefer. They are not nobles, nor does treating them as such serve any valid public purpose.


307 posted on 09/24/2010 2:37:46 PM PDT by sourcery (Don't call them "liberals" or "progressives." The honest label is extreme anti-Constitutionalists!)
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To: IrishCatholic
LOL! You're one of the Code Orange people!

No wonder you're biting my ankles and Non Sequitur's ankles.

BTW - one day, the murdering scum Mumia Abu Jamal will burn in hell, and I'll gladly warm my hands on the fire.

308 posted on 09/24/2010 2:40:10 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: kiryandil
How’d you get that? Off your meds? Please don't operate heavy machinery until you get some rest. What post says anything other than not enough is known? All heat and no light?
310 posted on 09/24/2010 2:46:11 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Ingtar

>You do realize that your argument could as easily apply to Congress, I hope.

Quite so; I’ve already written about *that* though.
Read this: https://docs.google.com/View?docid=dv698tm_22dr6x3nfb


311 posted on 09/24/2010 2:47:43 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: skeeter

I agree with you.
They have been digging enough into Scott’s background,
let’s do a little digging in Mosher’s background.


312 posted on 09/24/2010 2:48:03 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: SnakeDoctor
A former reserve police officer believed to have killed Detwiler

Man...talk about irony.....

313 posted on 09/24/2010 2:50:06 PM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: OneWingedShark
Good post! I'm seeing a perpetual motion machine that is making itself larger every year, under the guise of "protecting the public".

It's hard to fault the individual officers, since they're only the cogs. Some of the cogs could note, however, that retiring at 100 grand a year, guaranteed by the state, is almost too good to be true...

314 posted on 09/24/2010 2:52:52 PM PDT by kiryandil
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Some of the cogs could note, however, that retiring at 50 years old for 100 grand a year, guaranteed by the state, is almost too good to be true...


315 posted on 09/24/2010 2:53:31 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: OneWingedShark

Both of my brothers were cops, one a detective, both in major cities, so besides family I know many cops. There are good ones out there but there are lots of bad ones as well. Advice from both....beware.

BTW, both of my brothers are Oath Keepers.


316 posted on 09/24/2010 2:53:52 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: Getsmart64

So Snake’s big sob-story anecdote that he carries around from cop-screwup thread to cop screwup thread is about a cop-killer COP? WTF?


317 posted on 09/24/2010 2:59:36 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: Eagles6; skeeter; All

The most troubling and indeed, damning aspect of all is the refusal to release the recording of the initial 9-11 call from the Costco employee. These calls are usually routinely released to the media and involved parties within a matter of days.

That call, and the way in which the Costco employee described, framed and characterized the scenario in the store and Eric Scott’s behavior is what set all of this in motion. That call is what set up and determined the mindset
and tactical deployment of the cops.

The fact that the only evidence, the store’s security recordings, which would have allowed an honest evaluation of whether the Costco employee’s call accurately described Scott’s behavior and justified the ensuing response of massive force, is damaged and unviewable is statistically suspicious and damningly convenient to both the cops and the Costco employees.

Probably the only reason the recording of the initial 9-11 call has not been “lost” is that it went through the telephone system, and neither the cops nor Costco have custody of the archive media as they did with the hard drives at Costco. The access to and destruction of that evidence is a much more difficult proposition. For now, they are getting away with merely suppressing it, but it will become a major point of the lawsuits which will follow the current inquest cover up.

The recordings which have been released, and which have been repeatedly mischaracterized in this thread as “the 9-11 tapes” are actually the cops own tactical “chatter” on the police band. They may provide some useful information, but they DO NOT provide evidence of whether the mindset and tactics described in the police chatter were justified.

As tragic and disgusting as this incident itself has been, the behavior of many on this board has been almost as reprehensible. Especially those who keep prating about “getting all the facts” yet stubbornly refuse to admit that crucial facts (the actual 9-11 call) ARE being suppressed and evidence (the surveillance video) probably destroyed.


319 posted on 09/24/2010 3:03:40 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: kiryandil

>So Snake’s big sob-story anecdote that he carries around from cop-screwup thread to cop screwup thread is about a cop-killer COP? WTF?

...There’s not hyperbole like hypercritical hypocritical hyperbole, eh?


320 posted on 09/24/2010 3:05:21 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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