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Red China: Chinese think tank warns US it will emerge as loser in trade war
The Telegraph ^ | 9/14/2010 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 09/14/2010 1:44:53 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

A State Council think-tank in China has warned Washington that the US will come off worst in a trade war if it imposes sanctions against Beijing over the two nations' currency spat.

Ding Yifan, a policy guru at the Development Research Centre, said China could respond by selling holdings of US debt, estimated at over $1.5 trillion (£963bn). This would trigger a rise in US interest rates. His comments at a forum in Beijing follow a string of remarks by Chinese officials questioning US credit-worthiness and the reliability of the dollar.

China's authorities seem split over how to respond to moves on Capitol Hill for legislation to punish Beijing for holding down the yuan. The central bank has ruled out use of its "nuclear weapon", insisting that it would not exploit its $2.45 trillion of foreign reserves for political purposes. "The US Treasury market is a very important market for China," it said.

However, the mood is hardening on both sides of the Pacific. The dispute risks escalating if China's trade surplus with the US climbs further and more US jobs are lost. US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, who has taken a softly-softly line in the past, said on Friday that China had done "very little" to correct the undervaluation of the yuan since ending the dollar peg in June.

Mr Ding reflects thinking among some in the Poltiburo, who seem convinced that the US is in decline and that China's rise as an exporter of goods and capital give it the upper hand.

"They are utterly wrong," said Gabriel Stein from Lombard Street Research. "The lesson of the 1930s is that surplus countries with structurally weak domestic demand come off worst in a trade war."

He described the implicit threat to sell Treasuries as "empty

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; goldbugs; mao; maozedong; marxwouldbeproud; obamao
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It wasn’t that long ago Walmart’s main selling point was Made in America. That sort of died out over time. But it used to be plastered all over their stores when Sam Walton was still alive, bannered in red, white and blue.


61 posted on 09/14/2010 5:57:03 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: bruinbirdman

I will say that a lot of the products made in China are made like sh!t and have to be replaced faster.


62 posted on 09/14/2010 6:01:26 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: 1rudeboy

Last years news...sorry...wouldn’t know where to begin to look now...but it was when Hillary and Geitner and their crew made their second trip to China....about the time China was telling the Washington to watch their spending.


63 posted on 09/14/2010 6:03:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Lowering the corporate tax rate to 0% on those items that are made here from 100% US parts would cause an explosion of manufacturing and higher end jobs here in the US.

Which is why Congress will never let it happen.


64 posted on 09/14/2010 6:05:29 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
"Paying $0.50 more for a US made pen instead of a foreign made pen. "

And how are you going to implement this --- via tariffs? And what about TV sets, given that none is produced in the U.S. for decades?

65 posted on 09/14/2010 6:14:10 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Colvin
The ensuing anger will surely unite the public around the existing government. Is that what you want?

Trade wars are not football. THe last time we did that (1929), we lost.

66 posted on 09/14/2010 6:16:27 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark

How many of our jobs are dependent on overseas trade?
Is Yours?
Out of my family, 1 out of 10 has a job dependent on overseas trade. The rest of us are in education or technology.
And if someone opened a factory, she could easily get a job there with her skills.
So I see NO downside other then a short period of adjustment.


67 posted on 09/14/2010 6:22:14 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: caww

And how are they going to take the land? Invade us? LOL... get real.


68 posted on 09/14/2010 6:29:35 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: caww

So I’ll just go ahead and guess that the story is BS.


69 posted on 09/14/2010 7:07:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kinghorse

I remember when going to a Ponderosa Steakhouse got you a real steak, but I’m old . . . .


70 posted on 09/14/2010 7:09:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: bruinbirdman

Because Ahnold Schwarzenegger is giving California’s transportation bond money to China so they can run their ‘trains’ here.


71 posted on 09/14/2010 7:17:52 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: 1rudeboy
When I was a kid (10-15) I had paper routes and all of the drivers were Teamsters. It didn't take me long to catch on that "fairness" wasn't exactly a priority. I'm not saying the shenanigans were egregious, but I made sure to pay the bill early every week and never let a complaint rise above the driver to anyone at the newsplant. Oh yeah, and scoping out choice garbage pickings didn't hurt either. Once, my mom told me to have the driver help me with a dog problem...sheesh Mom don't do me any favors...lol.

These experiences helped me out later in life at a quaint little spot called McCormick Place.

72 posted on 09/14/2010 7:27:21 PM PDT by 10Ring
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Dorral ping.


73 posted on 09/14/2010 7:27:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: jveritas

Bad*ass! Tell it!


74 posted on 09/14/2010 7:48:10 PM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: jveritas

You support “free trade”.


75 posted on 09/14/2010 8:23:05 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: TopQuark

I fail to see that it would unite people behind Obama, unless he pushes for it.
Sorry, but the pain of seeing my fellow Americans out of work is too much.


76 posted on 09/14/2010 8:47:41 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: 1rudeboy

Considering that we have so little manufacturing/production in the US [comparatively to our consumption, I mean]; and in conjunction with all the regulations and taxations; this leads to an utterly unsurprising (and obvious) outcome for any sort of “trade war.”


77 posted on 09/14/2010 8:51:03 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Paying $0.50 more for a US made pen instead of a foreign made pen.

We still make pens? Where?

I drove past the Janesville, WI location of the former Parker Pen plant once. They saved the front door.

78 posted on 09/14/2010 8:52:11 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Toddsterpatriot; TwelveOfTwenty

>>to know I’d be saving money over the long haul by buying the US made pen.
>
>Always buying the more expensive product is your recommendation for saving money?

Maybe TwelveOfTwenty is part of the Collective known as Government Employees... “buy the most expensive product” sounds an awful lot like government contractor-work (i.e. one of the corrupt sides).

[/cynic]


79 posted on 09/14/2010 9:00:04 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 1rudeboy
That's not the problem, really. I jumped from the #4 (at the time, in terms of market share) steel fab company to the #1 steel fab company in the United States...

Name of company please.

80 posted on 09/14/2010 9:00:10 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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