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1 posted on 09/14/2010 6:20:02 AM PDT by kristinn
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U.S. Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer has expressed a willingness to ban protesters from burning the Koran

So the Christian Bible would be protected, too, right? According to the left, Christians are even more dangerous.

If our own government were to tell me I couldn't burn a koran, I'd burn one every week while praying for liberty. If everyone did it, they couldn't catch us all. In fact, burning the koran would become another ritual of remembrance - A remembrance of the Declaration of Independence.
Burn a koran day would become a national holiday for real, and the patriots would see to it that it was.

115 posted on 09/14/2010 6:57:39 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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IMPEACH THE BASTARD!!!

THIS is where THEY are going with OUR Constitutional Rights.

They should read the Declaration of Independence - the part about whenever a government become abusive of these ends it is the right of the people to abolish it.

America was founded on Enlightenment Principles - the concept of all human beings have certain unalienable rights that come from their Creator, not from any government. The First Ten Amendments recognize those Rights, they don’t grant them, hence they cannot be abridged.

The idea that burning a filthy piece of crap like the Koran constitutes shouting fire in a crowded theater holds no water. The only threat comes from those individuals worshipping the Koran. Take away that right and the state in effect is recognizing Islam as a special case and Muslims as a protected class.

The mere fact that he has STATED this, shoudl REQUIRE this bastard to recuse himself from any future cases arising in the future with regard to such an idiotic idea.


119 posted on 09/14/2010 6:58:39 AM PDT by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization)
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As the Supreme Court decides / defines our
Bill of Rights by votes of 5 - 4, Constitutionalists
are left out in the cold, soon, it does appear.

While the media repeats, "Move Along, Nothing to See Here"

120 posted on 09/14/2010 6:58:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform)
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Well let him run for a legislative seat if he wants to create law. Otherwise, he should shut up.


121 posted on 09/14/2010 6:58:51 AM PDT by cotton1706
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“U.S. Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer has expressed a willingness to ban protesters from burning the Koran as the modern day equivalent of shouting fire in a crowded theater.”

Apparantly to get a similar law vis a vis out nations’ flag, the next time soime hippy sets it ablaze, the same needs to be done to hippies everywhere.

In short order our flag will be similarly protected.


123 posted on 09/14/2010 7:02:16 AM PDT by Grunthor (Name one country with a muslim majority that doesn't have brutal, repressive laws.)
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His logic is incorrect. Yelling fire in a crowded theater is dangerous because the rational impulse is to save your life by running out of the theater. Burning a Koran may be offensive, but it is not a threat to someones life. So the irrational reaction of wanting to kill people who had nothing to do with the Koran burning is not an analogy to the theater example. How can you be on the supreme court and not see that?


128 posted on 09/14/2010 7:04:09 AM PDT by JTHomes
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So... let me see if I’ve got this right; it’s perfectly okay to burn the American flag, but... we’re not supposed to burn the koran????

Sorry, Breyer, but you’re a moron.


129 posted on 09/14/2010 7:04:19 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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A ban on Koran burning is absurd.

Is the government going to enter every house and see who has a Koran? Are they going to check every bonfire or fireplace?

well maybe......


130 posted on 09/14/2010 7:05:47 AM PDT by dforest
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Frickin’ retard.


132 posted on 09/14/2010 7:06:26 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: kristinn; FrogMom
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer has expressed a willingness to ban protesters from burning the Koran as the modern day equivalent of shouting fire in a crowded theater.

Only if he’s also open to banning flag burning!

[Sarcasm] Now, now! How could you? Don't you know the purpose of the First Amendment was written specifically to protect the burning of Bibles, American flags (burning anyone else's flat is a "hate crime"), and use of the "f-word?" Really! You "rednecks" think you own this country, don't you"? [Reminder: did you catch the SARCASM tag?]

You obviously don't understand the meaning of "equal treatment." This means creating a dichotomy in which the American majority is forced to act as the "host" and members of "outgroups" are to be treated as "guests." The "host" is required to put himself out and allow the "guests" to walk all over him. In cultural parlance this means the majority's sacred symbols must constantly be subject to desecration and ridicule (to prove this country doesn't belong exclusively to them) while the sacred symbols of the "guests" must be protected from the same desecration (to prove this country belongs to them as much as it does to those "redneck bigots").

Similarly, the religious symbols of the majority must be systematically excluded from all public space (to prove this country doesn't belong just to them) while the religious symbols of the "guests" must be prominently displayed in every public space (to prove that this country belongs to them just as it much as it does to those awful rednecks).

Now do you understand the meaning of the phrase "equal treatment???" [/End Sarcasm]

134 posted on 09/14/2010 7:09:00 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shabbat Shabbaton hi' lakhem ve`inniytem 'et-nafshoteykhem; chuqqat `olam.)
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If there was ever an example of the sort of thing that was explicitly intended for protection under the First Amendment, this Koran business is it.

Breyer shows himself to be a shallow Eurostatist who does not understand the Founding Fathers at all.


136 posted on 09/14/2010 7:10:14 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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WTH is wrong with everybody?! Flag-burning has been a sort of sacrament to the left for forty years, but now one of their chief acolytes wants to ban Koran burning?

Is it too much to ask for a little consistancy?

138 posted on 09/14/2010 7:11:55 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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Apparently, if we start killing random people every time someone burns a flag, we can get the Supreme Court to ban flag-burning.

Thanks, Souter, for telling our enemies that if they kill us when we do things they don’t like, you will allow the government to ban those things.

Hmmm. If more abortion doctors are killed, will he vote to support a ban on abortion? See how absurd his argument is?


145 posted on 09/14/2010 7:18:49 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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This guy doesn’t make sense.


148 posted on 09/14/2010 7:19:28 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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I thought the job of a SC judge was to interpret the law, NOT MAKE LAW!

Guess I was wrong!

149 posted on 09/14/2010 7:19:47 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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Breyer's analogy of "screaming 'fire' in a crowded theater" is not appropriate. Burning of the koran is not something that would result in people panicing to get to an exit in an emergency situation.

The first amendment to the U.S. Constitution states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It seems to me that Breyer's position on this issue fails on multiple counts:

1) can't respect an establishment of religion
2) can't abridge the freedom of speech
3) Anyone who reacts to a burning or desecration of the koran is not the same as someone in a theater who panics because they think a fire is there. With a fire, you feel in danger of your life. To see someone burn a koran does not cause anyone to panic from an uncontrollable catastrophe such as a fire.

The analogy fails, and to apply that analogy is but another extension of the meaning beyond its intent.

Either few are learning to apply logic anymore, or they only try to twist that logic to make language mean something that it doesn't.

150 posted on 09/14/2010 7:20:46 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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Any other constitutional amendments he wants to do away with while he’s at it?


152 posted on 09/14/2010 7:21:06 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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So if I threaten to become violent and go on a killing spree when a liberal burns the American flag, are we going to ban flag burning?

Is the right to free speech and freedom of expression dependent upon whether or not a group of people becomes angry enough to respond violently?

What if burning a koran is a legitimate tenet of my religion? Don’t I have the right to practice my religion even if it makes others angry?

This proposal to ban koran burning is ignorant!


154 posted on 09/14/2010 7:22:30 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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what defines a Koran?

If I write down a passage of the Koran and then highlight and delete it... have I destroyed a Koran?

If my 1st grader uses her colors to write Koran on a piece of paper that I later throw away... Have I desecrated a Koran?

If I post a picture of a Koran on a website, with flames licking at it... have I burned a Koran?

If a Jew who runs a publishing company prints Korans... Does that make the Koran tainted... and if their is a typo and he discards all the printings in the trash... has he committed a hate crime?

This is nuts.

156 posted on 09/14/2010 7:23:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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This person is unfit for such a duty, what a shame we have such dumb people in powerful positions.


158 posted on 09/14/2010 7:24:01 AM PDT by Scythian
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