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To: john drake

I made a statement like this several months ago on a thread,how unions were necessary early on in the industrial revolution,and man i have to tell you i was hit from 17 different directions. I am glad the discourse here changed.


44 posted on 09/04/2010 4:22:13 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

Not a surprise; no one is alive today that remembers the strife. Church leaders came out and fought for what was called a “living wage” where a family man could earn enough to support a family, get a roof over his head, clothes on his back and a pension in old age. Unfortunately, the Reds (as always) saw it as an opportunity to infiltrate the union movement as part of their great lie of the worker vs. the owners of production. Americans were correctly suspicious of this entanglement, however, management used it as an angle to continue their abuse on “patriotic” grounds (as did the slaveowners prior to the Civil War.) I expect vitriol to be thrown at me, that’s ok, it’s a free country still (kind of). But unless you’ve read the history of the labor movement in America, or have been abused by management collectively and repeatedly, and had Pinkerton detectives (private army) beat you and your fellow workers senseless at the command of management, you can’t understand. And as for the union bosses, no different than management, in fact, management itself, with a bogus tinge of self-righteousness representing the “rank and file” (what b.s.). In the end it’s the same, greed and power on either side, maxed out, leaving the little guy, the worker (factory or office) being unfairly used and abused. In the end, it’s all about fairness and trying to be humane in an inhumane world. The human condition throughout history.


45 posted on 09/04/2010 4:45:03 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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