Posted on 08/31/2010 4:17:24 PM PDT by wagglebee
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I suspect that if you dig deep enough they're willing to risk a constitutional convention too.
To Hell with them, I've worked as hard as I'm able to help the Tea Party effort, I'll be there with my RKBA signs until they drag me out!
Bump!
I just ran into Zanton and here is his mission statement. Maybe it’s gogogodzilla’s world view. Classic “If everything was all different, everything would be all different!” pie in the sky fantasy that could never ever be the way they imagine it to be.
I’m a classical liberal, libertarian, Objectivist, and beyond. I’m also an intellectually fearless free-thinker and truth-seeker. I believe in aiming at individual happiness and personal greatness above all else. I also think life is a wonderous gift to be Enjoyed and Celebrated at all times! :-)
My fundamental viewpoint about pretty much everything can be described as “pure liberalism.” This philosophy is based upon the best and truest of the traditional liberal cultures of Greece, Rome, Europe, and America (all sadly defunct). It’s also based upon the best and truest of the avant-garde theories of Austrian economics, libertarian politics, and Objectivist philosophy.
This New Liberalism, as I teach it, is the general philosophy, or the family of philosophies, which is essentially based upon:
(1) the epistemology of reason, rationality, logic, and science;
(2) the metaphysics of physicality, mathematics, physics, mechanics, materialism, and empiricism;
(3) the personal ethics of individualism, self-interest, and private happiness;
(4) the social ethics of non-tyranny, non-criminality, honesty, compassion, comradship, and social utopia;
(5) the domestic politics of: freedom, justice, and individual rights; of life, liberty, property, and privacy; of security, safety, free will, and persuit of happiness;
(6) the foreign policy of: libertarianism, free exchange, minimal aid, isolationism, non-interference and yet rescue and liberation, peace and yet justice; of non-appeasement, non-collaboration, non-diplomatic recognition, and non-moral sanction of foreign tyranny;
(7) the economics of capitalism, free enterprise, free trade, and laissez-faire;
(8) the sociology of the brotherhood of man, empathy, live-and-let-live, non-fraud, and frank directness;
(9) the esthetics of vivacity, dynamism, and heroism;
(10) the spirituality of the sublime, transcendent, infinite, and great.
Understanding and practicing these liberal values is the key to social paradise and personal joy — to the good life for all.
Check me out at www.youtube.com/ClassicalLiberalFire!
Should have pinged you both to the above comment.
(Sneaking in now and then today)
That reminds me of this weird thing that is going around libertarian circles right now called the 12 Visions Party, even Reason Magazine has gotten caught up in it.
It calls for splitting America and getting rid of the Constitution and replacing it with the 12 Visions, which seems like a weird fusion of Ron Paul and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
If that kind of stuff isn’t proof positive that they smoke too much weed, I don’t know what is.
Anyone who really has studied Objectivism knows that Ayn Rand hated Libertarians. Among many statements, she called them 'hippies of the right who sacrifice reason for whims'.
No. They aren't.
How much do libertarians have in common with conservatives? I wonder.
They want lower taxes and own guns, it ends there.
It does concern me that we seem to have so many of them here, but perhaps that is an illusion.
They just tend to flock the threads that deal with social conservatism. The anti-war libertarians were all zotted some time ago.
Here it is:
Hmm, can’t copy and paste their 12 Visions, but they are so entertaining that I will type ‘em up! The site is insanely wordy and does have the “sampling too much product” vibe...
Vision One: Become the Person You Were Meant To Be
[I am already am, thank you very much!]
Vision Two: Live the Life You Were Meant To Live
[Happening as we speak, thank you!]
Vision Three: Feel Extraordinary Every Day
[Ahem - that will be in the Kingdom of God in eternity, not in this world, fool!]
Vision Four: Slow Down Aging Permanently
[Hmm - cryonetics, or that thing where they freeze your head?]
Vision Five: Land the Job of Your Dreams
[You mean everyone can do this? No one will ever be disappointed ever again?]
Vision Six: Build the Business of Your Passions
[Is this in connection with legalized porn?]
Vision Seven: Experience the Love of Your Life
[A political party slash dating website? Or maybe the legalized prostituion...?]
Vision Eight: Have the Body You’ve Always Envied
[Free plastic surgery for everyone?]
Vision Nine: Become a Genius of Society
[They’re going to kill all the stupid people or what? Brain implants?]
Vision Ten: Have Everything You Ever Wanted
(Via the free-to-soar geniuses and super-techonologies)
[Now we’re cooking with gas! Invent your own reality - wheeeee!]
Vision Eleven: Ride a Prosperity Wave to Riches
(Via falling prices and soaring buying power)
[But won’t the people who sell stuff really cheap get the short end of the stick? Or this is a world where sticks only have one end, that’s it!]
Vision Twelve: Enjoy Nearly Perfect Health
(Via soaring medical technologies and falling prices)
[Come one, “Nearly”? That’s not good enough! They don’t get MY vote!]
Extremely creepy - reminds me of some horrible New Age positive thinking seminar friends dragged me to in the early 80s once. Skin crawlinging sickening.
I need a hash brownie after reading that.
It's related to you... not to me.
The tea party was formed as a grass-roots revolt against runaway government spending. (<---period) It's been wildly successful with that focus, not as a catchall for any number of additional social conservative and religious goals some of its members may have.
Hash brownie?
You need a straight hash diet for a month after reading that! With snacks of psylicibin (sp?) and mescaline.
So tell me, exactly what do these characteristics have to do with abortion? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Not every irresponsible, dishonest degenerate (as you've named them) has had an abortion or is pro-abort.
Exactly why does the pro-life movement feel the need to hijack the Tea Party movement? Could it be because the pro-life movement is jealous of the attention the Tea Party movement has received?
I'd say yes, and I say that as a staunchly pro-life, pro-fiscally responsible Conservative.
The minute you hijack the Tea Party, BOTH movement's messages are distorted, diminished and blurred, and NO ONE wins. I want both messages to win in the court of public opinion which is why I object to the hijacking of the Tea Party movement by us Pro-Lifers, so as not to diminish the message of each movement.
That's fact.
Keep that handy and any time a Paultard pops his head up, just re-read that.
Because the fundamental liberty of all is the right of existence- with out that, there is no need to fight for any other liberty. By the way, it isn't hijacking, it is a shared value among a majority of the Right.
Good post, and I agree.
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