Posted on 08/31/2010 4:17:24 PM PDT by wagglebee
Double dittos.
He stated an observation about the Tea Party contrary to yours. He sees social issues do matter at the places he's been.
I just have my priorities
Social and fiscal priorities are all of one cloth. That's what everyone is trying to tell you. It is all related. You want lower taxes. That won't happen if homosexuals get the "right" to "marry" because they want Social Security benefits. They also want government perks for homosexual businesses. There go your taxes again. Do you see your taxes going up? Me too. It's all tied together. It isn't separate.
Actually, most TEA partiers want the government to stop spending so much money and get the #$%# out of their lives.
Geez, that’s low. Posting your own work as proof of your position.
That’s something a college professor would do.
Liked i just told another poster social and fiscal issues are all of one cloth. Social issues cost you money. Free abortion? It'll cost you. Someone has to pay for it. Homosexuals get the right to "marry" and they get Social Security? It's going to cost you. Homosexuals want government perks for homosexual business owners. Who do you think is going to pay for that? You. Social and fiscal issues can't be separated. If it's a social issue, it's gonna cost taxpayers.
And when asked how that might be used in the event the opposition wins an election... the usual response is just to say that we can't allow them to ever win. Like we can really do that without destroying our Republic and replacing it with a dictatorship.
The only way to get the left’s agenda out of our lives is to ensure that the government is too small and too weak to enforce it. But that infuriates social conservatives because then the government is too small and too weak to enact *THEIR* agenda.
All the time not realizing that for most Americans, that agenda is already theirs. Sure, some won't agree with it, and they can live like they want, just so long as they keep it away from the rest of America.
And I can already predict their response to this.
IE - ‘How can you allow them to live that way! Their unborn children must be saved at all costs! We need the government to step in and make them stop!’
And there you have it. Social conservatives instinctively demand a strong state capable of enforcing it's agenda onto the people, regardless of whether they like it or not. Which requires quite a powerful central government with restrictive police powers. Which, in the hands of the opposition, is a very frightening thought. But then, to them, they think the same way (just in reverse).
Which leads to why our politics has become so partisan. For the more power we give to the federal government, the more and more important it becomes to keep control of it. Strip away it's power and there is less it can do, so the power-hungry (aka: politicians) have less desire for it. And thus there is less partisanship.
Exactly *HOW* is that a pet social issue to be enforced by the federal government? And how is that going to be expensive?
Yeah, because leaving a "pet social issue" like slavery up to the states worked so well.
What? Aren't YOUR posts proof of your position?
That’s something a college professor would do.
Or a writer.
Libertarians have “pet” issues, some like drugs, some prostitution, some pornography, some sodomy and some abortion.
I could not agree more. Your post brought tears to my eyes.
Thank you for my new sig line. ;)
Yes but they aren’t social conservatives. They’re closer to anarchists. Or Al “No Controlling Legal Authority” Gore.
Excuse me, abortion is not a ‘pet social issue’, it is the fundamental issue of individual liberty, the right of existence. Fundamental liberty can’t be regulated by state or local governments, no matter how much libertarians think it can. Individual rights, especially the right to one’s own life, trump everything, even State’s rights.
Libertarians aren’t conservatives at all, they are leftists who don’t like taxes and own guns.
Best you include RKBA. We must defend The Constitution and the concept of inalienable rights.
I believe the Tea Party should promote fiscal issues alone.
Kick everyone else to the curb and see how much support you get!
Good way to put it. They claim they are for ultimate liberty, but like a poster before, have no problem if local governments regulate liberty away re things like making abortion legal. Ayn Rand put it best- hippies of the Right.
Touche.
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