Posted on 08/21/2010 12:08:13 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
I and others have written extensively about the wolf reintroduction program and the destruction it has caused since the first 60 were released into Yellowstone Park and Idaho in 1995. What we are attempting to do with these articles is to wake up as many people as possible about the danger the left has put Americans in.
There is a Wolf Cult in America that has convinced many Americans that it would be a good thing to have wild wolves as neighbors in our local parks. Well I for one, and many like me, do not wish to be confronted by a wolf when we decide to go fishing or camping. Especially since the wolves that are being introduced into our parks, like to roam in packs. So if you see one you can bet the farm there are more lurking around near by.
Gate was given permission to post, in whole, an article written by T. R. Mader, the Research Director of AWS which is an independent research organization. Mader has researched wolf history for more than 15 years before he wrote this article. He has since traveled extensively as he continues conducting research and interviews on environmental issues.
Mader wrote this article at the height of furor over the wolf re-introduction program in 1995 & 96. It's my hope that by posting this, many of you will have a better understanding of the anger many ranchers, farmers, hunters, and even regular small town city folk have with a program that has proved to be everything those against the program warned about some 15 years ago.
Due to the length of the article, it has been divided into three parts, and instead of creating three separate posts on FR, I have created three links below for you to follow if you so desire to read the article, "Myths, Legends, & Misconceptions of the Wolf".
Part 1- Misconceptions 1 to 6
Part 2 - Misconceptions 7 to 12
Part 3 - Conclusion & Bibliography
There IS no status-quo with regard to ecology. It's alive. It's dynamic. It is ever-changing. Trying to control it, achieve it, pursue it, or create it, is wasted vanity. There is no "normal." Five hundred years ago is nothing in the grand scheme, you would agree? Well, 500 years ago there was snow all the way down to the coastline of California in areas that today only see mountop snow once a decade, if that. Much colder weather was NORMAL. If that suddenly became normal again in the next two years, many millions would starve because California agriculture currently feeds much of the nation. There IS no status quo. There is no "what it used to be."
I do live with lots of wildlife lurking. Mostly bears, bobcats, coyotes, snakes. They were here first. I respect them and try to stay out of their way.
*sigh* Live and let live is a vital part of natural conservation, but if your bears included Grizzlies, and if your local mix included wolves ... dear, you would not be living "with lots of wildlife lurking" for long.
You were there "second," remember?
There are certain animals that do present a you-or-me scenario. Grizzlies used to be very plentiful in my neck of the woods. If their numbers were even restored by half, dozens of people would be killed annually and livestock ranching would be impossible. Wolves belong in the far, far hinterlands or in the zoo.
"Who was here first" is a child's rationale.
HUH?
I am the wolf hater, not him. I say kill every damn one of them.
He is the one who comes off like a PETA member.
You need to reread the comments and figure out who is on wat side.
In case you're wondering, CaraMia, this is coming from a person who suspects that a possum has set up housekeeping in a nearby wall of her home and who probably won't do anything about it because it will leave next spring anyway; who (no doubt foolishly) is reluctant to remove a beehive from an outside wall after five years (I'm not alergic to bees and a sting is usually a minor -- as in forgotten in five minutes -- issue); and who lives in close proximity with mountain lions (I wish people could shoot at them), lots and lots of coyotes (I wish people could shoot at them), raccons, bobcats, and so damned many groundsquirrels and gophers that the dirt is like honeycomb. So live-and-let-live is something I practice, but I believe part of live-and-let-live is making sure things that would kill me or mine live where I'ain't. Shooting at them, including killing them when the aim is good, is the part of let-live-where-I-ain't comes in. The animals learn to go somewhere else.
I hear ‘em running the deer at night through my woods. Siberian Huskies (aka domesticated Russian Wolves) are often mistaken for our coyotes - (I have small breed dog - pure bred that goes straight back 4,000 years - bred to hunt small game in the brush. Except for his predominantly black color and smaller size, has this same profile. Beautiful animals.
http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/Wildlife/Wildlife_profiles/profile_eastern_coyote.htm
Anything that can kill deer can kill humans. Wolves in the suburbs would be worse than black bears and they are not good at all. When you wish for something like this, picture kids playing, riding bikes, etc.
There is a very good answer to overpopulation of deer in suburbs. Either bait them out to where they can be shot by hunters or hire the professional removers. They are very efficient and kill and remove the deer with little fanfare and the meat is utilized by charitable organizations.
There was a reason that those that came before us wiped out the top line predators from area’s where humans live....they didn’t want themselves or there kids to be eaten by wolves, cougar or bear....or the livestock they depended on for their food source...
One of the rules of nature is that when a bigger or stronger animal comes into another animals territory, they either fight until on is dead or the weaker one heads for a different territory...I am all for us winning...the wolves in some states have decimated deer and elk populations...
Bow hunting. Or, my city hires “sharp shooters” at carefully controlled times of the year to pick off the deer. Of course, we are a little more rural than Fairfax Co.
:O) Keep up the good work........shoot one for granny...
I live in a town in the CO Rockies with a serious elk over-population problem. It’s not possible to use shotguns or bows to hunt them. The elk problem has been an issue of public debate for about 30 years. FWIW wolves won’t work either.
A bullet is cheaper and saves tax payers money....some zap collars need an area to be wired or you just keep zapping them and torturing them....my daughter had a dog on her property they were trying to catch with a zap collar. the owner just kept zapping the dog and making him jump and howl....dumb idea..finally got the collar off and found the near by neighbor that owned the dog...
What a strange post. As you already know I didn’t advocate just turning wolves loose.
The Vietnamese try but they just aren't getting the job done.
We are not allowed to keep livestock in the county, so no goats, sheep or chickens.
Ping for later
Wolves? Can we introduce them in southern TX, NM, AZ, and CA? There should be plenty of prey.
So the wolves you think are such a good idea will take dogs, cats and small children.
Wolves don’t always kill their prey immediately, sometimes they just disable it, ripping chunks out to snack on. They also don’t always eat what they kill. Wolves are well known for their habit of “overkill”. Some think it’s practice or training for the younger wolves or perhaps because the abundance of trapped prey (usually in a fenced enclosure) causes a frenzy.
They won’t be nearly as tidy and politically correct as you imagine.
Well, they have been known to eat children on occasion so if no livestock is available you might want to keep children inside at night when you hear the coyotes howling(in a pack).
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