Posted on 08/15/2010 5:47:26 AM PDT by Chunga85
DULUTH, Ga. - A couple who lost their home to foreclosure and spent hours locked in a SWAT standoff with police when they refused to leave, talked about the situation Thursday.
The Grabers said they were living their version of the American dream. The Grabers said they owned their home for more than a decade when Howard Graber suffered a massive stroke. The Grabers said that's when everything changed.
On Wednesday, Gwinnett County deputies went to the Graber's Davenport Park Lane home to serve an eviction notice after the bank had foreclosed on the property. It turned into a four hour standoff and SWAT teams were called in.
"I was afraid for my life. I was afraid for my disabled husband's life. There's no way I was going to go to the front door," said Noya Lee Graber.
Police eventually stormed the house. Howard Graber spent the night in jail.
"They said, 'Taser her! Taser her now!' and I got tasered right on my stomach," said Noya Lee Graber.
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Btw, I never mentioned corporations you did. And you think because they got bailed out everyone should. I said that is a child’s logic. Just cause “Johnny” got away with something doesn’t mean that it’s ok for you to do the same.
And my lunch didn't burn. It was delicious.
You have stated this *ethical* and *conservative* thing to do.
Do you deny this?
This is about personal responsibility. Tragedy happens. To lots of people. Because liberals bailed out companies, against the wishes of taxpayers, do you believe that taxpayers should also have to pay other peoples mortgages?!
Do you feel it's conservative to pay the crooks and frauds that created this epic economic disaster as we're forced to bail them out?
Are you suggesting aiding and abetting and going along with two sets of rules and ethics is the conservative thing to do?
Take your time here.
You think that it's the conservative view to get taxpayers to pay these peoples mortgage?
You again seem confused...It was under Bush when the bailouts first started...And it's not just the liberals bailing them out, its you, me and our kids in future generations.
Why don't you answer any of the questions?
This thread is about a couple that was brutalized by police when they refused to leave their foreclosed home. You want to change the subject and start a fight. You've tried that with me before. It won't work this time either.
lol...
It's a conservative view to mind your own business, and not be foreced to bail out fatcorps and banksters...
Any other ridicules questions?
Go pick a fight elsewhere. I'm not interested.
Why don't you answer any of the questions?
You troll threads looking for a fight. I'm not going to oblige you.
LOL!
OK, you said fatcorps and banksters shouldn't be bailed out by the tax paying homeowners.....OK.
BUT THEY ARE!!
lol....
If Joe and Jane tax payer pay their mortgage, should the banksters and fat corps be forced to return the the trillions in bail out money they took from the tax payers?
lol...
Ya can't have it both ways!!
Then you run right out and tell the banks to give it back, ok?
Have a nice day.
On one hand it seems you supports two sets of rules...one for the fat super wealthy guys and banksters, and one for the peon tax payers. Anyone bringing up this obvious conflict is considered, "Childish" as you stated up-thread.
On one hand you demand the little guys pay up, hand it all over or hit the streets. On the other hand you clearly implied it's childish to expect professional ethics and standards from the banksters and fat corps as we bail their unethical corruption out to the tune of trillions...
You call this this conservative thinking?
I started this FR Thread earlier that didn't get much exposure.
"A group of nuns from Ireland are suing Morgan Stanley, alleging improper actions by the investment bank that led them to lose at least 5 million euros ($6.4 million), about 80 percent of their total investment, a filing by Stuarts Law showed. The claim, titled "The Sisters of Jesus and Mary versus Morgan Stanley", is related to bond investments linked to Dresdner Bank debt. The filing claims Morgan Stanley’s [MS 25.90 -0.22 (-0.84%) ] Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) Saturn's Investment Europe "deliberately or carelessly failed to redeem the notes" following their downgrading in January 2009. According to the filing, The Sisters of Charity of Jesus and Mary claim the SPV then waited until the price of the bond had risen in June 2009 to redeem the note and securing "Morgan Stanley a profit of at least $11.2 million … by way of a termination of payment." The nuns are seeking damages of 15 million euros. Morgan Stanley declined to comment on the case."
Well stated. There’s a lot of confusion goin’ on out there since the government has adopted the too big to fails and hooked them up with the US Treasury.
I have seen all 75 post and no-one is asking the Why?
Why the foreclosures are happening.
They are happening because their is corruption in the system...we have a major system failure.
The banks own the system...it has been set-up that way.
If you or your landlords’ mortgage(s) are from a Servicer, it was most likely traded on Wall St and is based in Fraud.
UCC 3-501
Ask the lender to PROVE UP THE NOTE.
You will be interested to know the outcome I am sure.
PS...NOT all Mortgages are BAD, but, any involved in any form w/ JPMorgan/Stanley/Chase, Wells Fargo, Countrywide, Argent, Ameriquest and a host of others need to be reviewed for FRAUD.
Yes FRAUD
How Main Street has Destroyed Wall Street
I guess now would be a good time to shoot the greedy homeowners.
It’s crystal clear. From the very beginning the homeowners have gamed the system. They started by tricking the property appraiser (lender’s agent) into submitting an outcome-based appraisal.
Then, millions of homeowners shrewdly conned the “lenders” into dismissing all agency and fiduciary responsibility in the underwriting process….going so far as to force the “lenders” into forging documents.
Then, the greedy homeowners forced the “lenders” to securitize the loan in such a fashion as to bifurcate the mortgage from the note.
On top of that, the homeowners secretly cooked up the concept of “Credit Default Swaps” and forced the “lenders” to insure the collateral at the full (outcome based) value 30X over.
Having successfully pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes – these irresponsible homeowners showered themselves with well deserved bonuses.
Realizing they were too big to fail, these irresponsible, reckless homeowners lined the pockets of legislators and received enormous sums of taxpayer bailouts.
The result of these cunning maneuvers by the fraudulent homeowner scheme has them sitting fat and happy in the cat birds seat. Yup, that’s how they did it. And they’re getting away with it.
Savings drained – check, 401ks all gone – check. Kicked out of their homes – check. “Lenders” made whole many times over via Credit Default Swaps – check. Homeowners foreclosed and “lender” buys back property for pennies on the dollar – check.
Follow the money and you’ll find the culprit. It’s about time we hold these homeowners accountable.
Good call. The websites below are sponsored by a well-healed, politically connected, PR machine of greedy volunteers… and contain detailed information on how the collusion on Main Street has ripped off Wall Street.
Don’t look though… it’s just spam.
It's almost ten minutes long so try to pay attention.
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