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To: vox_freedom; little jeremiah
"..pretty much tells us all we need to know about your views of Christ and Christianity. Christ wasn't harsh with sinners? Oh, really?"

Not a thoughtful response. I see you didn't click my screen name as I suggested, and your reading comprehension skills continue to be an embarrassment to you.

The point being made was that the "sinners" that Christ withheld his harshest criticisms for were the hypocritical legalists (ie: the religious zealot "leaders" of his day.) :

"Jesus defined legalism in Matthew 15:9b as "teaching for doctrine the commandments of men." The 'commandments of men' usually begin with something God commanded and then over-extend it at the expense of some other Godly quality.

Legalism is a zeal for righteousness, the law, truth, and justice. However, it is at the expense of grace, mercy, forbearance, and love. It tends to the spiritual affairs of others without grace, mercy, forbearance, or love. It is unbalanced.

Legalism is not a zeal for God. It is trusting in oneself, as Jesus said of the Pharisees in Luke 18:9. "And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves, that they were righteous, and despised others."

All eight statements by Jesus above can be summed up in a few words.

These people were about Power, Prestige, and the Purse (see The News & Views, Vol. 2, No. 5, Religious Dysfunction and Christian Responsibility). These are the root motives behind the desire of one group of people to impose the "commandments of men" upon others."

Of course, that is why I wrote this in post #500:

There are plenty of professing Christians (of all spiritually immature stripes) who would like nothing better than to be able to use the arm of government to impose their personal religious conscience on others.... "for their own good", of course. (See my previous post quoting C.S. Lewis, who understood that mentality perfectly.) They are merely the flip-side of the extremist left coin. bttt"

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"..The Pharisee [put your name here] stood and prayed, "God, I thank you, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess." The publican, however, standing afar off, would not even lift his eyes to heaven, but smote upon his breast and said, "God be merciful to me a sinner."

759 posted on 08/16/2010 7:48:00 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (BP was founder of Cap & Trade Lobby and is linked to John Podesta, The Apollo Alliance and Obama)
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To: All
“Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes, not divine, but demonic.
763 posted on 08/16/2010 8:03:33 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (BP was founder of Cap & Trade Lobby and is linked to John Podesta, The Apollo Alliance and Obama)
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To: Matchett-PI; little jeremiah
I did read your FR homepage, and it reeks of more condescension than I ever imagined. BTW, you seem to like Dr. Ronald Nash (RIP). An obit for him stated:

But Nash sounded an awful lot like the apostle Paul taking on the wolves. That's because both believed the gospel was more than an ideological parlor game for scholars. Real lives and real souls were at stake.

In the post to which you replied, I merely put forward St. Paul's professed views on homosexuality and the perversions it represents. Then your reply calls me an "embarrassment" and questions my "reading skills" for not reading your FR homepage. That's a good one. Seems your argument is with your own esteemed Dr. Nash, the Bible and Christian teachings, not with little jeremiah and me.
Or are you now calling St. Paul a Pharisee? That's thoughtful.

And your apparent, and undeniable, agreement is with a banned FR poster (to whom you posted support), not with true conservatives on FreeRepublic or St. Paul. Get a life or if you believe in the powers of redemption -- go for it.

764 posted on 08/16/2010 8:11:19 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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Dennis Prager: "...Indeed, Judaism may be said to have invented the notion of homosexuality, for in the ancient world sexuality was not divided between heterosexuality and homosexuality. ..."
765 posted on 08/16/2010 8:16:36 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (BP was founder of Cap & Trade Lobby and is linked to John Podesta, The Apollo Alliance and Obama)
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To: Matchett-PI
You want to tell me how turning a blind eye to this behavior in the name of appearances will do anything "Godly"?
After all, you don't want ot appear to be a hypocrite if you call that evil... shouldn't be judgemental and all that.
766 posted on 08/16/2010 8:34:33 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Jesus clearly does not want us sinners, who beg God for His mercy although (speaking for myself) we don’t deserve it for any reason other than that we belong only to Him, to condone, allow or legalize gross unhealthy, unnatural and immoral behavior in the form of same sex acts. Which were also severely condemned in his time. And before, and since.

Any simpleton can understand this.

From what I gather, you are using the veil of faux piety to slam those who stand up for moral absolutes.

Much more devious and deceitful than the regular old Pharisees, btw.


773 posted on 08/16/2010 9:15:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Matchett-PI; Jim Robinson
Stop using Scripture for pro-homosexual apologetics.

From the Boss: Post 93 Jim Robinson

FR is a conservative site. We do not appreciate our members fighting against us on our conservative values and issues. If you wish to support homosexual marriage or homosexuals in the military or hate crimes against us for speaking out against government promotion of homosexuality that’s your business, but you’d better do it somewhere else and not on FR. If you value your posting privileges, that is. FR is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage, pro-military, pro-traditional American conservatism and it is a privilege to post here. Those who support the godless liberal/Marxist destruction of our free society and our country are free to exercise their free speech rights elsewhere. I won’t stand in your way.

778 posted on 08/16/2010 9:31:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Matchett-PI
"..The Pharisee Matchett-PI stood and prayed, "God, I thank you, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess."
Yes, you are to make a distinction between good and evil Matchett.
The behavior at the link supplied is what you are trying to embace, excuse, turn a blind eye to in the name of not being judgemental or appearing to condemn.
What's that saying about the road to avery hot place and what it is paved with?
801 posted on 08/16/2010 5:00:13 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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