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First Rush, then Coulter, and Now Glenn Beck ... What’s Happening?
Life Site News ^ | NEW YORK, August 12, 2010 | Commentary by John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/14/2010 4:09:18 AM PDT by GonzoII

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To: Atom Smasher

Wikipedia is an open site. You may edit the FR definition there if you wish. I’ve never done it, and I’m not sure whether you may change another person’s entry, but you can certainly add your own.


601 posted on 08/14/2010 7:23:54 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: little jeremiah

“Your arrogance is only exceeded by your dishonest debating tactics.”

What, praytell, is dishonest about my debating tactics? Is me handing you your hat because you do not have a well thought out position dishonest?

You are the one that started getting all huffy and sarcastic. I just let you keep doing it, because it amuses me.

Be nice and I will be nice too. Be arrogant and sarcastic, and I’ll dish that back to you too.


602 posted on 08/14/2010 7:27:27 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
Come down out of the tower and walk among the people. Society allows things my grandparents would have never condoned.
603 posted on 08/14/2010 7:32:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: RFEngineer

I’ve been debating moral absolutes including homosexual agenda stuff since 2002 on FR. I am tired of libertarians, which is apparently what you may fancy yourself.

As well, you enjoy baiting people.

As you noted, I am a simple person, and highly complicated and duplicitous people are no match for me.


604 posted on 08/14/2010 7:32:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Since the 60’s it’s been on a fast downward track.


605 posted on 08/14/2010 7:33:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TheOldLady; Atom Smasher

Wikipedia just changes it back. It is a far left site and they lie.


606 posted on 08/14/2010 7:35:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Sandy01

As long as we allow the government to dictate what ‘marriage’ is... then government *WILL* dictate what marriage is - depending on the party in charge.

I say we return ‘marriage’ back to the religion that gave it to us. As ‘marriage’ is a holy sancrament, priests/pastors/rabbis/imams/whatever cannot change it’s meaning without defaming G-d.

And thus the institution of marriage is saved from the corruption we now see; a corruption solely caused by having the politicians get their grubby little hands on it.


607 posted on 08/14/2010 7:35:25 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Atom Smasher

Sigh... Thanks for the info, Mr. MacWoW.

Sorry for the bad advice, Atom Smasher.

That’s what I get for giving instructions about a site I almost never even read.


608 posted on 08/14/2010 7:37:55 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: DJ MacWoW

Screaming nosedive.

I was in high school in the 60s. Girls had to wear skirts, boys could not wear jeans. Kids were polite to the teachers or they’d get in trouble. Kids who drank and were wild got bad reputations. Girls who got pregnant usually went to homes for unwed mothers and came back afterwards having spent the last year “living with their aunt”.

I remember when a divorced woman moved in the neighborhood and I was so curious to know what a divorced woman looked like. Homosexuals? I had never heard of them.

Girls were encouraged to look forward to marriage and children. That was considered normal.


609 posted on 08/14/2010 7:38:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

“I’ve been debating moral absolutes”

You listed nothing that was dishonest as you complained.

I take it your personal moral absolutes don’t include everything you’d like to see in others.


610 posted on 08/14/2010 7:41:27 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: gogogodzilla; DBeers

DBeers posted this on another thread. Says it better than I could.

May I suggest you miss a part of the equation.

Government established by the people under God recognizing unalienable rights endowed the people by the Creator and tasked with protecting such rights can NOT remove itself from the moral equation. To do so would be to retreat from upholding the very basis of our government and individual freedom.

The problem here is not that government is involved in morality -the problem is that government assists those who attempt to redefine it. Instead of government defending we government taking a backseat while at the same time assisting those that in essence seek to destroy that which is unalienable by redefining it...

Society chose to value, reward and protect marriage and family LONG before government came along -government simply carries out social mandate when for instance providing tax breaks for children and or legal standing in many regards between husband and wife. Government did not grant these things just as government did not grant life or liberty. How can government redefine these things that the Creator endowed us with? If the rights emanate from the Creator so do as well the definitions.


611 posted on 08/14/2010 7:41:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: RFEngineer

I’m too simple minded to run around in circles with you. You can debate with fellow Mensa members.


612 posted on 08/14/2010 7:43:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Come down out of the tower and walk among the people. Society allows things my grandparents would have never condoned.”

You act as if bad behavior was recently invented. Society has had degenerate parts as long as there have been societies.

Neither morality, nor immorality is a recent innovation.


613 posted on 08/14/2010 7:43:31 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: TheOldLady; Atom Smasher

There is a site called Conservapedia. It’s being built slowly and they are more careful about info. Wikipedia is George Soros’ baby.


614 posted on 08/14/2010 7:43:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah

Yeah. I remember those days. In home ec we made aprons. Wonder if girls today even know what an apron is.


615 posted on 08/14/2010 7:45:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah

“I’m too simple minded to run around in circles with you.”

If you are truly simple minded, you could at least be consistent. You appear to have no point that you are arguing - other than you don’t like the way I debate.

I actually think we probably agree quite a bit on the issue - but you let pointless personal animus get in the way, and have no sense of humor.


616 posted on 08/14/2010 7:47:10 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
Neither morality, nor immorality is a recent innovation.

Immorality is more common with each generation. My grandparents raised me and they'd be appalled.

617 posted on 08/14/2010 7:49:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: RFEngineer
Neither morality, nor immorality is a recent innovation.

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618 posted on 08/14/2010 7:49:28 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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You don't debate. You insult. I've "talked" to you before. I wasn't impressed then either.

Good night.

619 posted on 08/14/2010 7:50:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah

I would say that religion is the basis for morality. Government should be restricted to either following their lead... or simply recognizing the morality set by religion.

We, the people, should *NOT* be granting the government the power to set morality.

And, in my view, allowing government to authorize who may or may not get married is usurping the duties of religion. Considering that politics are inherently corrupting in the first place, this inevitably leads to the corrupting of a nation’s morals, too.


620 posted on 08/14/2010 7:56:11 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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