Posted on 08/12/2010 4:35:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
As a long time renter, I say boot them out. The reason they are in trouble, is they are in way over their heads. It would seem to me it would be better to do a zero dump all and start over again in a trailer park or apartment. That is what most people had to do before the crisis hit.
That is why I would NEVER agree to participate in Section 8
The tenant has NO responsibility for damage or maintenance of the property. So they trash it and then complain about slumlords and move on to a better place
The govt guarnatees a rent check, but the landlord is responsible for all damages after the locusts move on
Those entitled masses feeding from the government tit are going to be the zombies feeding on your neighborhood starting about a day after the government misses a payment to them.
Prepare accordingly because that day is fast approaching.
Those entitled masses...are going to be the zombies feeding on your neighborhood starting about a day after the government misses a payment to them...When you look at the big picture, it's almost as if the elites want to force a civil war in this country. The thing is, the media is already portraying us, the producers in society, as the evil ones, and the violent, racist, entitled parasites as "the noble poor".
Thus, not only are these ghettomericans our existential enemy, those at the top who are fomenting this crisis are the puppeteers, manipulating the strings in order to foment this crisis.
We have enemies above us and below us; we are surrounded. We are the new minority.
Yes but they parked their Lexus out of sight.
Boy if this didn’t hit a nerve with me! My daughter lost her business last year... Due to circumstances, she ended up moving in with me. Took my daughter a little while, but she finally found a job .....the lady she replaced.....she had just quit this job the week before. WHY did she quit? Well, her section 8 housing came through for her! She told the boss she had been on the list for a “long time” and didnt want to lose out on getting a free place to live so she had to quit working. This happened last year......and I am STILL pissed every time I think about it. I am just as pissed at the boss for not turning this woman in. The more gov. hands out the freebies, the more moochers you get. Ugh....I want to scream...................
Missed it...
Quit her job to take a Section 8 apartment... Too old to spank. Don’t feel too bad—at least she had a business before. Helping someone temporarily down on their luck doesn’t bother me, but in the crowd that showed up for these vouchers, I’d say she’d have been exceptional. The problem is that it’s almost impossible to screen the temporarily down on their luck deserving from the moochers, which is why the old ways, though hard, had merit.
I lived in Maine a few decades back. The town had a board of Selectmen. One of them had the traditional title, “Overseer of the Poor.” I know, it sounds like Vincent Price whipping the slaves in The Ten Commandments. In actuality it was a good system, and the name was just a leftover from a couple of generations before. If someone in the town was down on their luck, the Overseer would quietly go around to the fuel supplier and the general store, and say that the person’s bills were on the town until things looked up. However, if said person was a mooch, it would be known, and they could go fish, so to speak. A nice system, but impossible in our modern anonymity.
Funny thing, though, is that thousands of people were able to get up at 5 or 6 in the morning to line up for a long shot at a freebie, but by their looks, most of them wouldn’t be up that early otherwise.
I do not think it is entirely about being in over their heads. Unemployment has much to do with it.
The Section 8 lady never had a business before. It was the poster’s daughter, who got a job working for another business because the woman who held the job before her - the Section 8 lady - had quit so that she could qualify for Section 8 (probably thereby paying virtually nothing for her housing).
People do quit their jobs (or work off the books) so that they can get government benefits.
If they lost their jobs and don't have any savings, then they are in over their heads. It is unfortunate that good people took on too much risk and the bottom fell out. In economic conditions like these, many people won't find new jobs at the old pay. The new pay won't support the old lifestyle.
I had a friend who rented his townhouse to section 8 tenants. After they moved out he had 50,000 in repairs. He has to replace ALL the drywall, all the bathroom fixtures, etc. Saying they trashed the place would be kind. Of course the govt. doesn’t subsidize the repairs, he was out the money.
One cannot assume that people were in over their heads to begin with.
We have a home, could pay the bills on time, every month, and then my husband lost his job well over one year ago.
We were able to pay the utilities, and make house payments that were less but we worked with the bank on this.
My husband was making under 30k at that job, and you are right, you will be lucky to make $8/hour these days.
Our lifestyle has not changed much because we could not do much to begin with. Unemployment has run its course and after September, who knows what will happen to my family.
Here’s how the Housing Choice Voucher program (Section 8) works:
Q.What are housing choice vouchers?
A. They are part of a federal government program that helps low-income families, the elderly and disabled be able to afford housing in the private market. Under the program, individuals and families are able to find their own housing, including single-family homes, town homes and apartments. They are not limited to public housing projects.
Q. How are they administered?
A. They’re administered locally by public housing agencies which receive money from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) to administer the voucher program.
Q. How do the housing subsidies work?
A. They’re paid directly to the landlord by the housing authority on behalf of the participants. The family then pay the difference between the actual rent charged by the landlord and the amount subsidized by the program. In some cases, if approved by the housing agency, a family may use its voucher to buy a modest home.
Q. Who is eligible?
A. Eligibility is determined by the public housing agency based on the total annual gross income and family size and is limited to U.S. citizens and specified categories of non-citizens who have eligible immigration status. In general, a family’s income can’t exceed 50 percent of the median income for the county or metro area in which the family chooses to live. The Marietta Housing Authority for instance will pay up to $1,054 for a three-bedroom house on behalf of a family.
Q. What information is used to determine eligibility?
A. The public housing agency collects information on family income, assets and family makeup. That information is then verified with the applicant’s employer and bank.
Source: hud.gov
Perhaps, but from what I've seen/been told of Section 8 areas (coming near you soon), they sure as Hell degrade the neighborhood.
The past doesn't matter. What matters is now. Sounds to me like you have serious problems that you need to reckon with. Just curious, if your family's situation is so precarious why are you spending time on FR an not out working or looking for work?
Geeesshhh are you displaying some wishful thinking!
I lived next to a section 8 complex for five lonnnnnnggg years. People knocking on my door asking for handouts, one guy came up to my back door during a rainstorm trying to sell me a stolen lawn mower.
A steady parade of booming car stereos all night on Fridays, announcing their arrival to buy drugs. And trash!!!
Bottles, litter, and (my favorite) disposable diapers, complete with baby poop in my back yard.
The summer before I sold and moved out they arrested 22
people for drugs one weekend. Out of a 48 unit complex!
Section 8 sucks, the renters tend to suck, and the persons that own the properties are guaranteed a reserved place in hell ( Which would be like living next to their rentals ).
The problem is, if you have rental properties, eventually you won't have a choice but to participate. I thought about buying some rental properties, but knowing what the future is, I am backing out.
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