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To: stephenjohnbanker
Reagan was a “globalist,” by your own standard(s). How do you explain your selectivity?

196 posted on Thursday, 12 August 2010 12:42:03 AM by

1rudeboy

To: 1rudeboy; DoughtyOne; mkjessup; rabscuttle385; All
” Reagan was a “globalist,” by your own standard(s). How do you explain your selectivity? “

This has to be one of the most ignorant, insipid and outright stupid statements I have ever read at Free Republic. You must have an argument. Produce it, at once!!

199 posted on Thursday, 12 August 2010 12:55:28 AM by stephenjohnbanker

To: stephenjohnbanker
Uruguay Round
Creation of the WTO
Canada Free Trade Agreement
NAFTA
FTAA
And yes, immigration reform.

200 posted on Thursday, 12 August 2010 12:59:34 AM by 1rudeboy

To: 1rudeboy
Uruguay Round: Came into being in 1995 LINK
The WTO: Came into being in 1995 LINK
The Canda Free Trade Agreement: Signed on October 4th, 1988 LINK
NAFTA: Implemented on January 1st, 1994 LINK
FTAA: Talks have been ongoing since December 11th 1994, but this never became a reality. LINK

Okay, there you have it. One of these five agreements was negotiated and signed by Reagan. The others all formalized years after he left office.

The Uraguay Round was the culmination of efforts started in 1986. By the eighth round, the Uraguay Round, the General Agreement on Tarrifs and Trade (GATT) was formally turned into the World Trade Organization (the WTO). Did Reagan envision this effort becoming what it did? Perhaps so. Perhaps not.

I agree with nation to nation agreements. For instance the Canada Free Trade agreement involved direct talks between two nations. No governing body had to be set up to administer the agreeement.

When you start going the route of NAFTA and the WTO, multi-naiton governing bodies are a must. And that’s where I draw the line. These governing bodies can and do cause nations to lose control of their own decision making processes. These multi-national organizations sooner or later make demands on individual nations, the United States being one. So instead of us being a sovereign nation that makes it’s own decisions regarding not only trade, but employee pay, benefits, and other intricate matters, these matters become the perview of the trade organizations. Any member nation can file a formal complain, stating unfair advantage, and cause other nations to have to modify their internal regulations. In some cases this means having to strike down commerce clauses that have been in effect for decades, perhaps as much as 100 years. Would we otherwise do that? No. We’re only doing it because we are forced to by these trade organizatons. We comply or face sanctions.

Was Reagan a globalist? From the above list of agreements, there’s no proof of it.

Each of these entities became reality as much as five years after he left office.

Nice try Goober.

207 posted on Thursday, 12 August 2010 1:34:58 AM by DoughtyOne

LOL! Why is it RINOS like you have to lie to make a point?


53 posted on 08/11/2010 7:07:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
It's poor form to bring the argument here, as I am still posting to that thread . . . but if you insist, I'll ask the forum: can you name the globalist who said the following?

One of the greatest contributions the United States can make to the world is to promote freedom as the key to economic growth. A creative, competitive America is the answer to a changing world, not trade wars that would close doors, create greater barriers, and destroy millions of jobs. We should always remember: Protectionism is destructionism. America's jobs, America's growth, America's future depend on trade—trade that is free, open, and fair.

This year, we have it within our power to take a major step toward a growing global economy and an expanding cycle of prosperity that reaches to all the free nations of this Earth. I'm speaking of the historic free trade agreement negotiated between our country and Canada. And I can also tell you that we're determined to expand this concept, south as well as north. Next month I will be traveling to Mexico, where trade matters will be of foremost concern. And over the next several months, our Congress and the Canadian Parliament can make the start of such a North American accord a reality. Our goal must be a day when the free flow of trade, from the tip of Tierra del Fuego to the Arctic Circle, unites the people of the Western Hemisphere in a bond of mutually beneficial exchange, when all borders become what the U.S.-Canadian border so long has been: a meeting place rather than a dividing line.


58 posted on 08/11/2010 7:10:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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