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Mitch Daniels: We need a “truce” on social issues (Daniels: SoCons are a Distraction)
Hot Air ^ | June 10, 2010 | Allahpundit

Posted on 08/10/2010 2:28:39 PM PDT by GOPGuide

Alternate headline: “Mitch Daniels’s dark-horse presidential bid dead on arrival.” Here’s what he told the Weekly Standard per the profile Ed flagged yesterday:

Beyond the debt and the deficit, in Daniels’s telling, all other issues fade to comparative insignificance. He’s an agnostic on the science of global warming but says his views don’t matter. “I don’t know if the CO2 zealots are right,” he said. “But I don’t care, because we can’t afford to do what they want to do. Unless you want to go broke, in which case the world isn’t going to be any greener. Poor nations are never green.”

And then, he says, the next president, whoever he is, “would have to call a truce on the so-called social issues. We’re going to just have to agree to get along for a little while,” until the economic issues are resolved. Daniels is pro-life himself, and he gets high marks from conservative religious groups in his state. He serves as an elder at the Tabernacle Presbyterian Church, in inner-city Indianapolis, which he’s attended for 50 years.

John McCormack pressed him to elaborate on what he meant by a “truce” and Daniels couldn’t offer any specifics. (“Everybody just stands down for a little while, while we try to save the republic.”) Enter evangelical leader Tony Perkins to lower the boom:

“Not only is he noncommittal about his role as a pro-life leader, but the governor wouldn’t even agree to a modest step like banning taxpayer-funded promotion of abortion overseas — which [former] President Bush did on his first day in office with 65% of the country’s support. Let’s face it. These aren’t fringe issues that stretch moderate America. They’re mainstream ideals that an overwhelming majority of the nation espouses. I support the governor 100% on the call for fiscal responsibility, but nothing is more fiscally responsible than ending the taxpayer funding of abortion and abortion promotion. More than 70% of our nation agrees that killing innocent unborn children with federal dollars is wrong. Yet stopping government-funded murder isn’t a “genuine national emergency?” We cannot “save the republic,” in Gov. Daniels’ words, by killing the next generation. Regardless of what the establishment believes, fiscal and social conservatism have never been mutually exclusive. Without life, there is no pursuit of happiness. Thank goodness the Founding Fathers were not timid in their leadership; they understood that “truce” was nothing more than surrender.”

Other religious conservatives are piling on too: “Something like this will cost him any consideration from one of the key constituencies of the Republican Party,” says the president of the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute. Ramesh Ponnuru is right that Daniels is kidding himself if he thinks he can avoid these landmines as president — the first Supreme Court vacancy will thrust him right into the middle of it — and it’s amazingly tone-deaf for an aspiring nominee to propose a “truce” on abortion given how many pro-lifers equate it with murder. But even so, I’m sympathetic to his willingness to prioritize America’s entitlements crisis over everything else, even at the expense of alienating a core wing of the GOP. The hard lesson that Republicans seem to have to learn and re-learn is that, thanks to Roe, there’s not much a GOP president and Congress can do legislatively about abortion, in which case why not temporarily de-emphasize it as a political issue if it’ll buy crucial centrist votes needed to redress a fiscal emergency? (In fact, isn’t that an unstated assumption of the tea-party movement? “Yes, foreign policy and social issues are important, but economic stability is now Job One.”) Unless Daniels means that he’s willing to compromise on a pro-choice Supreme Court nominee, which would be pure political suicide, I’m not sure which social issue he’s supposed to be willing to go to the wall for even if it means detonating a potential political compromise with Democrats to reform social security and Medicare. If McConnell and Boehner come to President Daniels and say they’ve got the votes for a balanced-budget amendment but in return the Dems want the Defense of Marriage Amendment repealed, Daniels is supposed to tell them to hit the bricks?

Sounds to me like what he’s really saying is that we should accept the status quo, whatever it may be, on social issues until entitlements are back on the path to solvency. As for abortion, I suspect his way of squaring the circle will be to argue that, in fact, because fiscal solvency is priority one and because we need lots of young workers to support our federal Ponzi schemes, the moral argument for opposing abortion is actually a very sensible economic argument too. Exit question one: Is this guy done for, assuming he ever had a chance to begin with? Exit question two: He’s pretty much a textbook example of the sort of candidate who’d benefit from a California-style free-for-all primary, isn’t he?


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KEYWORDS: 2012; daniels; mitchdaniels; notmymanmitch; potus2012
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Whatever else we might say, your position on the Nicaragua canal is well nigh irresponsible. What next, Free Silver?

Thanks for checking my profile page. I hope you learned something, such as that the Republican Party was in 1892, and still is supposed to be, pro-American and anti- Free Traitor.

121 posted on 08/10/2010 5:59:48 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

As for the “Nicaragua canal”, it served the USA well almost a century, through two world wars many years of peacetime shipping, until the commie Carter gave it away for nothing.


122 posted on 08/10/2010 6:03:20 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: meadsjn
My guess is and was, that you fall into secular or at least one of the not very religious categories, therefore your group is made up mostly of liberals, unlike the social conservatives. It is clear that you feel uncomfortable with conservatives even though you desire to support their economics, it must be difficult for you to have to affiliate with a political group that you despise.

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123 posted on 08/10/2010 6:11:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12
My guess is and was, that you ...

Well you guess wrong again. It's very leftist and communist of you to try to lump individuals into your narrow, predefined "groups".

124 posted on 08/10/2010 6:19:52 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: ansel12

What’s next? Do you have a train waiting to take those “other” groups of your imagination to the gulags or concentration camps?


125 posted on 08/10/2010 6:25:44 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: ansel12
Hey, you don’t like Southerners, I do.

You know, Southerners should be highly offended that you're assuming they're all on welfare, are shiftless, have illegitimate babies, and vote Democrat. I can't describe how disgustingly bigoted against Southerners you're turning out to be, what with your horrible assumptions about them.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

126 posted on 08/10/2010 6:31:39 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: meadsjn; ansel12

Don’t worry, ansel’s going all William Jennings Bryant on me, too. I think he wants to crucify me on a cross of gold.


127 posted on 08/10/2010 6:32:53 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: meadsjn

LOL, so you don’t exist, because if you exist, then you fit one of those categories and I think that we all know that it is a category made up overwhelmingly of liberals.

I seriously doubt that you fit into one of the categories that is majority conservative.


128 posted on 08/10/2010 6:34:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

This really is a revealing look at you, it must be difficult for you to have to live in the south.


129 posted on 08/10/2010 6:36:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12
... because if you exist, then you fit one of those categories ...

Yours is the classic mindset of collectivist tyrannical governments demonstrated over the past century and more, to the tune of more than a hundred million murders.

130 posted on 08/10/2010 6:38:48 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: ansel12
is really is a revealing look at you, it must be difficult for you to have to live in the south.

What are you talking about? You're the one who's dissing Southerners and assuming that they're all a bunch of welfare addicts and bastardists.

The South's okay, but I have to say, it ain't the Midwest.

131 posted on 08/10/2010 6:40:08 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The South's okay, but I have to say, it ain't the Midwest.

Thank you, I got it right.

132 posted on 08/10/2010 7:26:46 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: GOPGuide

Daniels, now I imagine Lugar told him to say all of that.


133 posted on 08/10/2010 7:36:14 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: meadsjn

No, didn’t Goldwater and Howard Baker compete over who cast the tie-breaking vote for “giving away” the canal?


134 posted on 08/10/2010 7:38:49 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: meadsjn
You don't like conservatives, yet you are here on a conservative site, it seems that torn between your dislike for us yet your liking our economics, that you force yourself to vote with us, the important thing for you to remember, is that social conservatives are the heart and the voting base of conservatism, not anti-social conservatives.

I think that we can assume that you are in one of the categories that is made up mostly of liberals, I'm starting to wonder who you voted for in 2000.

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135 posted on 08/10/2010 7:39:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: GOPGuide

The Oligarchy gets antsy when the peons and peasants start getting uppity.

The Mittster would appear to be history..he’s been unable to put the Palin’s back in Alaska....so their rolling him under the bus...


136 posted on 08/10/2010 7:43:09 PM PDT by mo
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To: BenKenobi

“Abortion has severe fiscal long term consequences....”

the consequence shrinking of the generations is responsible for the pressure on our politicians to open the borders.

the ramifications are manifold.


137 posted on 08/10/2010 7:47:07 PM PDT by mo
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To: ansel12
You don't like conservatives, yet you ...

You don't know jacksh*t about what I like or don't like, or the same about any other person here.

I don't like you or your behaviors, and hope everyone reading recognizes your leftist tactics. I don't expect you to recognize it or to change. You're just a bigot -- look it up. Words mean things, and mostly not what you imagine.

You are a bigoted POS, determined to employ your commie, NAZI methods to pigeon-hole individuals into your imaginary "groups" and "categories". That is not a conservative trait.

138 posted on 08/10/2010 7:55:33 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: meadsjn
You got on this thread and started lying about social conservatives, it is clear who you don't like.

Anybody dishonest enough to say this.
"Regardless, the fact is that either Social Conservatives are irrelevant in national elections, or more than half of them voted for Obama in 2008. Most of the same Social Conservative idiots that supported Huckabee also previously supported Bill Clinton, and about asmany of them supported Algore in 2000 as supported GWB.

Is someone with a deep hatred and bigotry towards the conservative voters and people of faith that make up the vast majority of that voting block.

139 posted on 08/10/2010 8:04:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12
That's not hatred and bigotry; that's just fact. People who claim to be "social conservatives" are just as likely to vote for Democrats as for Republicans. You should go talk to some of those "social conservative" voters. I have, and I do, regularly.

Here this thread is at post #140 or so, and you still haven't articulated a single conservative principle or idea.

I believe you could, if you really, really tried. If you close your eyes and think for a few minutes, you might be able to squeeze one tiny little conservative principle or idea out of that reptilian pea-sized brain. Come on; give it a try, without any "categories", "groups", or labels. Just start with some generic concepts like "consent of the governed", life, liberty, property, individualism, etc., etc., and express just one single conservative idea. You can do it.

140 posted on 08/10/2010 8:44:48 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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