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Lolo Soetoro U.S. Records - Allen v DHS State and Allen v USCIS - FOIA Releases Final 7-29-10
US State Department ^ | 29 July 2010 | unknown

Posted on 08/03/2010 3:23:40 PM PDT by bushpilot1

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To: Fred Nerks

WTF?


161 posted on 08/03/2010 9:10:11 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Fred Nerks

The divorce papers are not the same.


162 posted on 08/03/2010 9:16:54 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

OH BOY, HERE WE GO AGAIN! (I was wondering about that.)


163 posted on 08/03/2010 9:20:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

101 from the state department is a stamp for the King signature bottom right and the second copy is signed. Plus there is a stamp on the bottom right on one document and not one on the other.


164 posted on 08/03/2010 9:20:21 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: centurion316

Very true.


165 posted on 08/03/2010 9:27:33 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: bushpilot1; Greenperson

I noticed that...two different copies of a Decree?

Can someone crop the bottoms off...and show one above the other, to make the difference stand out clearly?

Is there NOTHING that just raises more questions in this sorry saga?


166 posted on 08/03/2010 9:27:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Ramius

Yes, that is right.


167 posted on 08/03/2010 9:27:58 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Look the clerk signature document 101 it is a stamp. The document released by the state of hawaii it is signed.


168 posted on 08/03/2010 9:31:13 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
Look the clerk signature document 101 it is a stamp. The document released by the state of hawaii it is signed.

I can see the difference, but what might that signify?

169 posted on 08/03/2010 9:45:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Page 39 is one of the documents first presented at the top of this post. In that letter, it says “Mr. Soetoro departed from the United States on July 20, 1956 . . .”

Transposition of the numbers? Should have been 1965?


170 posted on 08/03/2010 9:45:43 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fred Nerks

they both have the same time 10 56 on the date filed stamp..one must be original other copy...strange


171 posted on 08/03/2010 9:50:45 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Greenperson

1966


172 posted on 08/03/2010 9:52:59 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone; bushpilot1; Greenperson
...they both have the same time 10 56 on the date filed stamp..one must be original other copy...strange

I see that, at face value, appears she received two copies at the very same time, but why is one different at the bottom from the other? Strange is right.

173 posted on 08/03/2010 9:59:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Greenperson

I think that is July 20, 1966.


174 posted on 08/03/2010 10:02:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: bushpilot1

Besides his father not being US citizen disqualifying his NBC status, there is also the problem that he was a dual citizen...which draws his NBC status into question, and also the possibility that he surrendered his US citizenship for Indonesian citizenship later on.


175 posted on 08/03/2010 10:09:06 PM PDT by old republic
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FOR THE RECORD - RELATED THREAD

Stanley Ann’s passport records out
A place to ask questions to get the right answers ^ | July 31, 2010 | Apuzzo

Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 11:25:47 AM by jdirt

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2562507/posts


176 posted on 08/03/2010 10:27:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

The first copy is reported to be in the 1960’s. The second copy was (maybe) released recently by the state of Hawaii. The second copy appears to be edited.

Has any one seen the Dunham-Obama marriage license?


177 posted on 08/03/2010 10:46:24 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

This is supposed to be the marriage license. Good luck reading it.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35197608/Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Obama-Lolo-Soetoro-Marriage-License-15-Mar-1965-From-Soetoro-FOIA-Docs


178 posted on 08/03/2010 10:58:12 PM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Cheburashka
I see nothing requiring two citizen parents in S. Res. 511.

Were you reading the same resolution? Are you playing cute semantic games, like asking what "is is?"

Here is the scrubbed Pat Leahy press release. Remember, the intention was deception, since a "resolution" is "let's all say we agree that this would be a good idea." It carries no legal imperative, and couldn't because laws cannot modify the Constitution. This resolution provided cover for McCain, which in turn silenced any Republican objections to the patently ineligible Obama, about whose eligibility there were never Congressional hearings, though they were requested of many Representatives and Senators by Cmdr. Kerchner the Summer before the election.

U.S. SENATOR PATRICK LEAHY
CONTACT: Office of Senator Leahy, 202-224-4242 VERMONT
Senators: McCain Is A ‘Natural Born Citizen’
Senators Introduce Resolution To Make Clear Senate’s Position On Candidate’s Status
WASHINGTON (Thursday, April 10, 2008) – Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) today introduced a resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that presidential candidate and current Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) is a ‘natural born Citizen,’ as specified in the Constitution and eligible to run for President.
In February, The New York Times published a report calling into question the legality of McCain’s presidential run. McCain was born to American citizens stationed on an American Naval base in the Panama Canal Zone. He has since served in the U.S. Navy, and, since 1983, has served in the U.S. Congress.
“Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.”
“It is silly for anyone to argue that Senator McCain is not eligible to become president,” said McCaskill. “I would hope that this is something we can all agree on, for goodness sakes.”
At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.
“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.
“That is mine, too,” said Leahy.
The text of the resolution and Leahy’s remarks follow. # # # # # 110TH CONGRESS 2D SESSION

The pretext for this resolution, and for McCaskill's prior attempt to get a law on the books, Senate Bill 2678, Feb 28 2008, "To clarify the law and ensure that children born to United States citizens while serving overseas in the military are eligible to become President," is McCain's having satisfied the "citizen parents" provision. The reason for the concern has always been that he does not satisfy jus soli - he was not born on sovereign U.S. soil. We may all wish this were not the law, but everyone in the Senate certainly did, as did the New York Times, Obama, his law school professor Larry Tribe and Solicitor General Ted Olsen, and thousands of others. Either we have a constitution,or we had one, and now pay lip service when it suits the ruling class.

179 posted on 08/03/2010 11:14:52 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Bon mots; bushpilot1
forged...

they are doing a better job now. That is actually done on an antique store 1960’s typewriter. They learned after Rathergate.

Yep... what caught my eye was how "perfect" it was. A real typewritten letter OF THAT ERA would not display such uniformity in the darkness and definition of the letters. This letter was carefully typed (with Wite-Out and corrections) on a single sheet of white paper, with a freshly inked ribbon.

Letters back then were typed through several layers of carbon paper for copies (there were no photocopy machines back then). There would have been a typo or two. Some letters would have made a deeper, darker impression than others. The typist's fingers don't always strike in the center of each key or with the same amount of force or pressure.

Too perfect. Does NOT pass the smell test.

180 posted on 08/03/2010 11:17:53 PM PDT by thecodont
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