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Dealing with citizens legally carrying a concealed weapon
policeone.com ^ | July 26, 2010 | Ron Avery

Posted on 07/28/2010 6:23:51 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought

As the ‘right to carry’ spreads across the United States, many law enforcement agencies and police officers express their unease — and for some, outright alarm — at the idea of citizens carrying concealed weapons.

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Law abiding citizens do not expect to be treated like a felon — nor should they be. They will be angry if you prone them out, spread eagle them against a wall, or take their firearm from them without just cause. Good point to remember: A little thought and common sense goes a long way here.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
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To: darkside321

Just hang on to your sanity, dark.

I’m sure the situation was traumatic, but you only did what was necessary to protect yourself and others.

Time to move on from that experience and stop beating yourself up because of the outcome. That kid was no different from a grown man, in that he was trying to kill you or your fellow soldiers/Marines.


61 posted on 07/29/2010 1:15:19 AM PDT by octex
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To: Respond Code Three; Finny

Welcome to FR!


62 posted on 07/29/2010 1:36:05 AM PDT by b9 (P rinciple A uthenticity L eadership I ntegrity N ational pride)
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To: TSgt

Why bother even bringing it up for a traffic stop?

Absolutely no need unless you get out of the car.

(no need to inform in PA)


63 posted on 07/29/2010 5:08:34 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: mamelukesabre

Agree 100% with that advice. No point in making turing an easy-going 5 minute traffic stop into a tense 30 minute one.

That being said I often I OC and have never had any issues.


64 posted on 07/29/2010 5:11:24 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s required by law.


65 posted on 07/29/2010 5:34:27 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt
It’s required by law.

Uh, no it's not, here in PA.
66 posted on 07/29/2010 5:40:22 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: driftdiver
What is it called when there is one set of laws for some and another set of laws for others?

Eric Holder's DOJ?

67 posted on 07/29/2010 7:28:31 AM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: Finny
Good cops are worth their weight in gold. Bad cops can be worse than criminals because they damage they do is exponential...

If only bumper stickers had more space...

68 posted on 07/29/2010 7:33:06 AM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Interesting info on how LEOs detect CCW. I use a pocket holster with a mouse gun (P64 Makarov) in my strong side front packet the extra mag in the offhand front pocket. In light of this article I am thinking about going to a different system. I do find myself “adjusting” when I carry to avoid printing. Even the DeSantis pocket holster prints a bit when worn with slacks. I wouldn’t want some hyperactive LEO mmistaking me for a gangbanger because of my carry choice. Has anyone got any experience with the deep cover groin holsters he talks about? I’ve seen them on web pages but honestly they look pretty uncomfortable.


69 posted on 07/29/2010 7:40:14 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: MrPiper

My mindset also...for the same reasons.


70 posted on 07/29/2010 7:41:33 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: TSgt

Here in Nevada you can legally have a loaded handgun in your car and are under no obligation to inform the cop that you have a weapon.


71 posted on 07/29/2010 7:44:20 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Thread winner!


72 posted on 07/29/2010 7:46:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: darkside321
Hey buddy....it wasn't your fault. It was HIS fault that you shot him.

You wouldn't be normal...if you didn't have some remorse over it. But you are trying to make some rational sense out of something that is not normal...ie: a kid toting a rifle intent on killing you.

You did what you had to do...

Hang in there, man.

FRegards,

73 posted on 07/29/2010 7:51:49 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: jboot

Surely you don’t look like a gang banger!?!?!?


74 posted on 07/29/2010 7:56:38 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: TSgt
This usually diffuses the situation especially if you are in a car.

.....except for those times when it just escalates the situation a hundred fold.
75 posted on 07/29/2010 8:07:09 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Here in Nevada you can legally have a loaded handgun in your car and are under no obligation to inform the cop that you have a weapon.
Same here in Texas too. It is a very liberating feeling.
76 posted on 07/29/2010 8:18:47 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Osage Orange

LOL, no. I’m a stereotypical over-the-hill nerd (too young for a slide rule but too old to have much hair left). But when it comes to shootin’ things I don’t want there to be any doubt. I don’t much care for the pocket rig, anyway.


77 posted on 07/29/2010 8:58:44 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: Finny; b9

Thank you both.


78 posted on 07/29/2010 9:07:54 AM PDT by Respond Code Three
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To: Osage Orange; darkside321
Lt. Colonel David Grossman wrote a good book on combat shooting: "On Combat: the Psychology and Physiology of Deadly Conflict in War and in Peace." But he also adapted his work to police shootings. I attended one of his classes and I promise you, if you can ever attend, he is riveting.

He lays out the psychological and trauma an officer can experience in a shooting. Even in a "good shoot" incident, an officer can suffer for the rest of his life. There are people who assume that the officer fires the weapon, gives a statement, and that pretty much wraps it up. No, the shooting lives on and on in the mind of the officer.

79 posted on 07/29/2010 9:08:02 AM PDT by Respond Code Three
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To: jboot

I wear boots a lot.....I like the ankle holster, although it’s hard to get at. I carry a Sig P230SL...at the moment.


80 posted on 07/29/2010 9:21:53 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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