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To: twigs; Noumenon
Don’t count on it. I heard one pundit suggest that after the house goes Republican in November, Obama will move to the middle and then run again on that. Obama lies to suit his current goal. People have short memories. It could work. I wish I had more faith in my fellow Americans, but I don’t.

Normally I wouldn't have too much faith that enough of the population (fellow citizens) would be awake enough to understand the gravity of the situation and what needs to be done (otherwise we wouldn't be in this deep of a national nightmare would we?).

However, this creature has to be the most polarizing political figure that I can think of, at least in this country. I don't think there will be a situation over the next couple of years in which people drift back and forth between support/opposition to this regime. Except for the small fraction of "citizens" that are fully committed statist ideologues, call it 10% at most, the vast majority of people that voted for this creature fall into the following categories:
- largely ignorant (willful or otherwise),
- led by an asinine "white guilt" of some sort,
- eagerly looking for a lifetime supply of handouts,
- or just wanted to be on the "inside, cool side" of cultural happenings.

That is, for the most part, they had no freaking clue as to what they were voting for.

Now that we are at 19 months and counting, and more and more of the purely evil and dangerous intents and actions of this regime are exposed, more and more people will wake up. (Remember, one of the most remarkable aspects of that creature's campaign was the almost total lack of any substantive descriptions of specific policies or actions to be undertaken; it was all this very nebulous (and highly malleable to the perceived desires of a given audience) "hope and change" nonsense.) And once they do awaken, and sort out their own nonsensical reasons for making a grave mistake in 2008, they will not be left sitting on the fence. That is, I don't see too many people shifting their support/opposition back and forth depending on what type of lies are being told. For once they do indeed wake up and grasp the level of deceit and pure destructive evil that they had mistakenly bought into, they are not likely to be fooled twice.

That's my working theory at the moment (and maybe I am just grasping at straws to give myself comfort enough to sleep more than a couple of hours each night!). It is what I sense that is starting to happen in this country. Of course I could be very wrong; very, very wrong. However, I believe that the careless, reckless, and arrogant manner in which this regime has "governed" has planted the seeds for its downfall (way too much, way too fast (and with an arrogant smug look on its face all throughout)). So no matter how much more clamping down comes before 11/2012, they have overplayed their opening hands and there will not be enough sheep left to fool again. (Even if we see major assaults on our freedoms to share information openly, e.g., severe censorship of the Internet and talk radio, the very fact that such draconian measures are undertaken will prove to be more troublesome for the regime than useful.)

Of course all of this assumes a legitimate election process in both 2010 and 2012. Absent wholesale fraud and rigging, I would doubt that no more than 15% of the voting public will allow themselves to be manipulated and abused again. Add that 15% to the 10% that are the committed statists that we described above, and you got about 1/4 of the country voting for another term of rapidly hardening tyranny and death, not enough to carry the day.

As I said above, I could be very wrong about how this plays out. And last night as I drifted off to sleep I was nowhere near this optimistic about anything. These thoughts above sort of crystalized for me throughout the day today. While I think that I have been desperately looking for something in all of this chaos to make me feel better for quite sometime, I have been missing any evidence of a public turning point. Earlier today I was listening to Kudlow on his weekly radio show (even though he angered me so much in the past that I swore him off). For some, perhaps masochistic, reason I decided to tune in again while I worked out in my shop. What I found very encouraging was the fact that he didn't immediately cut off and tune out a few of the callers that made intelligent and rational descriptions of what this regime was actually doing in front of our faces and what appears to be the underlying motivations for these actions. I know that even 2-3 months ago he would have immediately talked down calls such as these and made light of them. Perhaps I am reading too much into Mr. Kudlow's apparent awakening, but I have coupled that with the fact that the business community (at least significant members of it) are finally getting up the nerve to call this regime out publicly. Maybe I am premature in my identification of a true turning point, only time will tell.

52 posted on 07/17/2010 3:57:08 PM PDT by zzeeman (Existence exists.)
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To: zzeeman
Great post, zzeeman. Point by point:

...for the most part, they had no freaking clue as to what they were voting for.

True. There's a good third of the populace who are simply detached from any sense of what's unfolding around them. Bereft of any sense of history - or even any interest in the same - they'll be the ones most surprised by the trainwreck that coming at them. Day-to-day, they jsut don't see it. Although the growing ranks of the unemployed are startign to wonder jsut what the hell's going on. But clueless nonetheless. Trouble is - these are precisely the kind of people who clamor for the 'man on the white horse' when TSHTF. And they're going to get him.

For once they do indeed wake up and grasp the level of deceit and pure destructive evil that they had mistakenly bought into, they are not likely to be fooled twice.

No kidding. and more to the point, there's no one more angry and hankering for a reckoning than someone who realizes that they've been the victim of a swindle. Have our intended masters bee na tad, oh, say, overambitious? Why yes, I believe that they are. It's that vey impatience to usher in the ever-immanent New World and with it, the New Man that makes them so damned dangerous - and so monstrous. Strip away that urge for Utopia and you'll find those 'monsters of the id' that turned out to the surprising bogeyman in a classic '50s science fiction flick. The desire for Utopia - legitimate for some - is merely the maskirovka that our ruling elites use, consciously or not, to disguise their lust for absolute power - and all of the horror, mass murder and atrocity that comes with the gig.

Here's the picture: you cannot rule a free and prosperous people. You must first kill many if not most of them, impoverish the rest and keep them permanently on their knees. This is the goal of the elites who despise us precisely because we are free and not subject to their bidding. Communism, fascism and all of the totalitarian 'isms' are merely the means to an end. Power is the name of the game.

Recall what Orwell's character O'Brien from his prescient 1984 had to say in consideration of power and its uses:

"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power.

Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.

What pure power means you will understand presently.

We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites.

The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods,but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.

Power is not a means; it is an end.

One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.

The object of persecution is persecution.
The object of torture is torture.
The object of power is power.

That's who we're dealing with. There's only one way this can end. And it won't be in the voting booth.
60 posted on 07/19/2010 10:46:06 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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