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Several witnesses at the scene say that Erik Scott did not act aggressively or touch his firearm before he was shot.
1 posted on 07/13/2010 4:07:35 AM PDT by marktwain
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From the comments on the channel 8 news story:

“I couldn't agree with you more....My wife and I were 7 or 8 feet away from the shooting as were the police. We were to the suspects immediate right. We heard and saw the 3 police officers shouting to the man in question to ‘get on your knees’ several times. At that point the man appeared somewhat stunned by the commotion and shouting of the police. His Right arm went up in a defenseless position and it appeared his left arm appeared to be going up but there was NO gun in his hand. He was taserd and shot at the same time. At no time did the man in question ever raise his voice, shout an obscenity or become confrontational with the police. We saw the disabled man stooping to his right facing us with what appeared to be a bullet wound in his upper chest with blood coming from the wound and immediately his eyes became glossy as he began to convulse. At this point he was no threat to anyone, both hands were in full view of us and there was no gun. As he was down, the police continued to shout ‘put the gun down’ several times...but there was no gun in his hand as we had full vantage point view. The injured man was having agonal respirations, he was down when the second volly of bullets rang out. There was no doubt in question that following the second barrage of bullets the man was dead. His girlfriend was to the back side of us and began to scream.....why did you kill him, he is a military man with a license to carry a concealed weapon. You didn't need to kill him....you didn't need to kill him.
An officer then came up to the injured man who in my opinion was a ‘dead’ man’, was cuffed with his hands behind his back and no attempt by the officer to determine if the man was alive or dead. No apparent life saving aid was given to the ‘downed’ man. The man was totally lifeless when the Paramedics arrived on scene. I was absolutely surprised to see that no attempt at aggressive ACLS was engaged. They simply just picked up the body like a ‘sack of potatoes’ and hurled him onto the gurney and into the ambulance This was a crime scene.... the crime scene was violated. One of the paramedics who attended to an injured elderly lady said the man was dead. There was a dead man in front of Costco. What nobody is talking about is that there were many many spectators, many like ourselves within just a few feet of the victim when the shots rang out. It seems to me that the greater danger was posed not by the victim but by the police who fired many shots in the vicinity of the innocent public. I agree with you, I hope the media and your friends family can get their hands of Costco's Camera's which will indeed tell the rest of the story. Also it must be confirmed whether the second gun supposedly found by the victims side was indeed also registered to him as a licensed conceal and carry.
This whole incident was a monumental tragedy; a tragedy for the family and friend and also a tragedy for the involved officers who were pushed into a needless confrontation that reached hysterical proportions due to the overreaction of certain employees and bystanders. This was a needless death.

In summary it is our opinion that the victim did not pose an immediate threat to the public.....and in the final analysis was a case of excessive force
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http://www.8newsnow.com/global/story.asp?s=12785291

2 posted on 07/13/2010 4:13:47 AM PDT by marktwain
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This looks bad for the cops.I would bet there is video of all that went on.Prayers for the family of the slain man.


3 posted on 07/13/2010 4:14:52 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Looks like the comments section has mow been scrubbed.


4 posted on 07/13/2010 4:23:23 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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Costco workers saw the suspect destroying merchandise

Opening a box to check the contents?

14 posted on 07/13/2010 4:35:47 AM PDT by kanawa (Obama - "It's going to take a while for us to dig ourselves out of this hole.'')
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The store video surveillance tapes should have been immediately retrieved and will give both sides much to analyze. If the tapes are not available or there are technical difficulties, this will allow a a lot of demagoguery.
15 posted on 07/13/2010 4:35:53 AM PDT by Truth29
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This is Erik’s father:

http://www.williambscott.com/williambscott.com/Home.html

About Erik:

“His father was in the Air Force, and his grandfather fought in World War II, friend Mike Pusateri said.

“The most loyal, honest, trustworthy, salt-of-the-earth guy you could meet,” said Pusateri, 38. “You only meet one or two of those kinds of guys in your life, and Erik is one of them.”
http://www.lvrj.com/news/slaying-of-army-veteran-shocks-friends-98223884.html


19 posted on 07/13/2010 4:53:19 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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I think it might be a good idea to know which areas Officer Mosher is assigned to patrol, and to make a determined effort never to go there.


29 posted on 07/13/2010 5:55:08 AM PDT by behzinlea
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The idiot costco employee is the start of this terrible chain of events. I hope he gets some pain out of this for causing the tragedy.


53 posted on 07/13/2010 7:12:36 AM PDT by existtoexcel
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Crossthreading all posts about this:

Slaying of Army veteran shocks friends (Man gunned down at Costco over Concealed Carry)

POLICE SHOOTING AT COSTCO: Officers identified in shooting at Costco; lawyer says man didnt pull gun

Officers In Costco Shooting Identified (NV)

There's probably more threads, but these are the ones I've been reading.
69 posted on 07/13/2010 9:13:09 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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Where is the video of the alleged rampage?


70 posted on 07/13/2010 9:17:00 AM PDT by dragnet2
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I want to know how this escalated from rowdy shopper to Terrorist.

Our war fighters in Afghanistan have stricter ROEs than the LEOs in Las Vegas.

It seems that the Costco Store Management is out of control.

The Las Vegas Police are totally mismanaged and totally out of control.


71 posted on 07/13/2010 9:22:44 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Metro cops have a tough job in this city. They have to be pro-active *blech* and aggressive, and if a perp gets shot when he’s doing something against the law, blame the perp, not the cop.

Metro trains on a “worst case secenario” and perps are living in the moment. The media can twist in the wind for all I care. Look how they glorify any liberal idea; then think of the job that Metro has trying to sort things out.

Talk about “war zones.”


79 posted on 07/13/2010 11:21:19 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Welcome home to my awesome army grandson!! Prayers and yellow ribbons for Anoreth of CG fame!)
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