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To: Glenn

Seeing as I’ll be the one paying for this, not really.

She failed to maintain a healthy blood sugar level. It’s not like the cop lowered it. He’s not a doc, he’s not a paramedic. The city is held responsible, but why isn’t she? Her failure to provide for her own health and welfare is what caused this in the first place.

Maybe medically sensitive people need to do more to protect their own personal safety than regular people. Cars with special plates, or registration with regional health orgs, so that maybe, so if a 911 call comes in, first responders might be better prepared for what they are going into.


10 posted on 07/11/2010 10:17:48 PM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Hexenhammer
The city is held responsible, but why isn’t she?

Because she did nothing wrong and I'm offended you cannot see this. SHe's not supposed to live life in a vacuum just because she could go into diabetic shock. Just as a heart patient shouldn't live in a vacuum just because they might suffer another heart attack.

The city was punished because the cops were completely and 110% in the wrong here. Personally I think they should be held personally responsible for their actions here.

Folks like you are the reason that cops are doing stupid stuff like this on a daily basis, tazing grandma's, 10 year olds, and people in the full throws of shock and seizures.

But its all in the name of law and order, do as I say... do not question my authority.

16 posted on 07/11/2010 10:33:04 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Hexenhammer
I know of diabetics who cannot completely control their blood sugar even on insulin pumps and strict diets. They are considered brittle diabetics and there is very little they can do to stop this from happening. One of my friends recently underwent a pancreas/kidney transplant to help his situation. My other friend recently was released from the hospital after suffering severe scalding burns after she passed out (low blood sugar) in the shower and wasn't able to turn the water off. She doesn't drive, and if you'll notice in the article, not every call that this treatment occurred on involved a driver.

Educate yourself on the subject before you start blaming this life threatening medical condition on the patient. I see no MD behind your name.

20 posted on 07/11/2010 10:48:09 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: Hexenhammer
She failed to maintain a healthy blood sugar level.

Do us a favor and read up on diabetes before posting straw-man comments. The onset of low blood sugar can come on quickly and without warning, even if you do everything correctly.

It’s not like the cop lowered it. He’s not a doc, he’s not a paramedic.

You're right there. He's not a paramedic, but he's stupid. I saw similar occurances all too often as a paramedic. Too many big-headed "you-better-do-as-I-say" attitudes could turn a peaceful situation into a problem in a heartbeat.

21 posted on 07/11/2010 10:53:05 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Hexenhammer
Her failure to provide for her own health and welfare is what caused this in the first place.

Hel-lo? Anybody home? The lights are on, but no one seems to be home...

Her friend called 9-1-1 and she was attempting to administer a shot of insulin to herself when Officer Friendly showed up and shot her with the stun gun.

Or, maybe you skipped the first sentence of the article?

The city is held responsible because they're the ones holding Officer Friendly's leash, same as you would be held responsible if your pit bull attacked a baby. She is not being held responsible because she was having a medical emergency and only called for help.

Maybe medically sensitive people need to do more to protect their own personal safety than regular people. Cars with special plates, or registration with regional health orgs, so that maybe, so if a 911 call comes in, first responders might be better prepared for what they are going into.

Hel-lo? Is anyone home, yet?

As the article states in the very first sentence, her friend called 9-1-1 and briefed them as to the situation, i.e.: diabetic shock, so that the first-responders could be prepared. But in his haste, Officer Friendly ignored these instructions. I'm actually pretty surprised that Officer Friendly didn't break out his M-16 and rake her with automatic weapons fire.

32 posted on 07/12/2010 12:30:47 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Hexenhammer

Stupidest post of the day award for you. I guess anyone mugged or raped had it coming also, since they should have been protecting their own safety.


36 posted on 07/12/2010 1:19:22 AM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood... killing more blacks than the Ku Klux Klan could have ever dreamed of.)
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To: Hexenhammer
"She failed to maintain a healthy blood sugar level."

Study up on diabetes. I have a coworker who monitors his blood sugar every two hours. He even wears a insulin pump. However, he sunk suddenly into a hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) state that caused him to start talking with slurred words. When he started saying some crazy things to his supervisor, we knew he was having a reaction. His head was bobbing and he could hardly stand up and we had to hold him up until we found a chair. We were just getting him a can of Coke when he went unconscious. It happened real fast. We called 911 and the fire department came and administrated a life saving shot of glucagon.

This was all a result of his insulin pump putting too much insulin into his body. He may have set it wrong when he was at a low sugar level and not thinking well.

41 posted on 07/12/2010 2:35:00 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Hexenhammer

Her failure to provide for her own health and welfare is what caused this in the first place.

She was providing for her own health and welfare when the cop interfered.


45 posted on 07/12/2010 4:28:21 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: Hexenhammer
He’s not a doc, he’s not a paramedic.

No, but most firemen, policemen and security officers are trained as medical first responders and he should have known better.

I don't know what requirements PD's across the country have, but I do have an idea of what training first responders get. I volunteer as an instructional aid for a lady who teaches a course for first responders and EMT(B)'s.

He ignored what should have been obvious signs (in most cases, anyway). He, instead, thought "She isn't doing what I tell her, I'm gonna taze her @$$!" How much threat did she pose to him, even if the hypodermic was loaded?

What I see here is another sign of the increasing "Us against them" mentality increasingly common in PD's. That mentality alienates those of us who would otherwise be predisposed to be supportive of LEO's which increases the "Us against them" mentality etc.

55 posted on 07/12/2010 5:47:16 AM PDT by magslinger (If recycling makes cents as well as sense, I am all for it.)
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To: Hexenhammer

First of all with low blood sugar your thinking is screwy. I almost injected a friend one time. If I had it would have killed him. He was in a daze and everyone thought it was high blood sugar. Turned out we called a paramedic and he figured it out. A little O.J. and he was okay.

As I understand it the cop knew this was a diabetic. Her friend had called 911 and she knew what the problem was. She had a needle in her hand. There are way too many bad cops out there with intchy fingers wanting to kill something or somebody. I still say if one kills a dog put their ass in a uniform and ship them directly to Afghanistan.


67 posted on 07/12/2010 10:41:28 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( Democrat-Republican, whatever)
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To: Hexenhammer
first responders might be better prepared for what they are going into.

Maybe we should just get more intelligent first responders instead of always scraping through the bottom of the barrel for the garbage cops we have now?
82 posted on 07/13/2010 7:45:32 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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