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Fox News Alert: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says
Fox News ^ | June 25, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 06/25/2010 8:44:27 AM PDT by GoCards

Edited on 06/25/2010 11:06:48 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: I cannot think of a name
exactly.

If we had nuked Falluja right after they hacked our soldiers to death, burned them, and hung them naked from that bridge, this war would have been over years ago, and 1000’s of US soldiers would not be dead now.

The terrorists would of been lining up in lines 50 miles long to surrender, within days of the bombing.

Ironically even fewer Iraq's would be dead, since supposedly millions have been killed over the years, while only a few hundred thousand lived in Falluja

101 posted on 06/25/2010 10:35:43 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

I’m wondering if this was in McChrystal’s plan - to land Petraeus the job, putting Obama over a barrel so he’d HAVE to do what Petraeus demanded.


102 posted on 06/25/2010 10:37:24 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: 444Flyer
See post 95.

I would add that if he is concerned about troop morale and about Islamist website propaganda, he can say and do things in his confirmation process that in no way conflict with my advice that he be vague about ROE and other tactical issues until he is in theater. He can, for example, say something like, he has experience turning around a situation, and he will do what it takes to do the same in Afghanistan. He can point out that Al Qaida in Iraq thought the same thing in 2006. Things like that.

103 posted on 06/25/2010 10:38:45 AM PDT by Defiant (2010 is pretty much it, folks. Send them packing, or start packing.)
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To: murrie

Agreed. Muzzies follow Islam, which is a political/religious ideology. They must be broken a million ways from here to Mars, and if that means nukes and sowing salt in the earth, then so be it.


104 posted on 06/25/2010 10:41:00 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: SE Mom

Praying it is changed for the better and not the worse. If it’s worse than what Obama has already done...we need to start calling for our troops to come home imho.

Thanks for the ping!


105 posted on 06/25/2010 10:44:37 AM PDT by penelopesire ("Did you plug the hole yet daddy?")
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To: GoCards

Maybe they’ll be allowed to have a round chambered as they patrol.


106 posted on 06/25/2010 11:02:07 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GoCards

Looked like McChrystal’s ROE was a big problem with the troops.


107 posted on 06/25/2010 11:31:57 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

McChrystal was following orders from the top? no?


108 posted on 06/25/2010 11:35:47 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: murrie

I don’t recall hearing that...and I agree it’s disturbing.


109 posted on 06/25/2010 11:44:05 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: butterdezillion
I’m wondering if this was in McChrystal’s plan - to land Petraeus the job, putting Obama over a barrel so he’d HAVE to do what Petraeus demanded.

I don't think it was his plan to have his aides blabber to the Rolling Stone but he certainly can make the best of the situation!

Turn a fail into a qualified win - I'll take it.

It may have been Petraeus' idea when he heard about it.

It's funny, turning a crisis into a win. Using The Big 0's tactics against him.

110 posted on 06/25/2010 11:45:08 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: GoCards

Well, looks like he was big on these rules that Petraeus is now apparently going to change - same Impostor in Chief for both.


111 posted on 06/25/2010 11:46:11 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: RedCell; Retired Greyhound
So killing the enemy will now be authorized?

Woah! Not so fast. The first change needs to be letting them put ammunition in their weapons. ;-)

I'm not sure we'll go even that far.

My sources tell me that - given the current political situation in Washington - permitting our troops to "fart in the general direction" of the enemy is about the best we can hope for.

On the bright side, when struck by an IED, I'm hearing that angrily shaking one's fist will soon be permissible.

112 posted on 06/25/2010 11:51:27 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: GoCards
" one of the first things the general will do when he takes over in Afghanistan is to modify the rules of engagement to make it easier for U.S. troops to engage in combat with the enemy, though a Petraeus spokesman pushed back on the claim.

Troops on the ground and some military commanders have said the strict rules -- aimed at preventing civilian casualties -- have effectively forced the troops to fight with one hand tied behind their backs. "

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/25/petraeus-modify-afghanistan-rules-engagement-source-says/

If I recall correctly the softening of the ROE's were the ultra radical Obama and his administration's ideals and decision. It was said that the general Obama just fired was progressive left enough to adhere to this ridiculous order, this is precisely why he was hand-picked. A politically left leaning general thinks Obama was too radical and an idiot.How profoundly sad!!!

Something tells me Obama will not allow normal ROE's. Expect Obama to revise this call and return the ROE's so we lose and get more killed as it has been.

Obama wants terrorists read rights as well as he could care less that they use women and children as ploys to blow up many.

113 posted on 06/25/2010 12:02:58 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Carry_Okie

“My bet is that Petraeus used that leverage, demanding changes in the ROE or he wasn’t going to take that job.”

That was my first thought, too.


114 posted on 06/25/2010 12:32:58 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Mich Patriot

You almost have to wonder if McCrystal and Petraeus are in cahoots together.


115 posted on 06/25/2010 12:42:38 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: keats5

that’s what I was thinking... did McChrystal take one for the Armed Forces?


116 posted on 06/25/2010 1:37:35 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: 444Flyer; MestaMachine
The Osborn's lost their son in Afghanistan and blame the ROE's: http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S1623848.shtml?cat=300

FTA: Instead, these parents laid blame at the President's feet. "I think he's the wrong man for the wrong job at the time, and I think he has things backwards I think that it's a kind of a touchy feely approach to war and it doesn't work," Bill Osborn said. "We have to win the war first. The only way to do that is to have someone in charge who's a warrior, not a flower child," Beverly Osborn said.

117 posted on 06/25/2010 1:46:11 PM PDT by Saoirise (Sgt Larry Hutchins is a Free Man!!!! Keep it that way!)
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To: LS

You probably got that right! Just home from work and what sweet news this is! The game will change..go Petraeus!


118 posted on 06/25/2010 1:58:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Is it just me or is the FR clock two minutes fast ?


119 posted on 06/25/2010 1:59:11 PM PDT by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: PLMerite

I’m on EST. here in Western PA.


120 posted on 06/25/2010 2:04:54 PM PDT by caww
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