Homosexuals think Jesus was one of them because he loved his disciple John, I think the one who was mentioned specially.
People see what they want to see.
If people want to see the truth, even if it goes against their attachments or fondly held beliefs or desires, then they will see the truth.
Otherwise not.
I am firmly and immovably of the understand that the Song of Solomon does not describe sodomy aka oral sex what to speak of anal sex (which you did not say, I am not accusing you that it describes that kind of sodomy!.
Ever heard of “tasting lips”? Or “tasting” used metaphorically? Especially in classic poetry analogies and elaborate similes and ornate descriptions are used to infer other things. Example (just from my head, not quoting, but I’ve read poetry like this) - “We drank the cup of sweet ambrosia together” - when speaking of love.
Does this mean that the lover and beloved had one cup of some drink called ambrosia? Or does it mean their love for one another was so sweet and made them feel unified and experience a type of sweet intoxication from their exchange of emotions?
>> Homosexuals think Jesus was one of them because he loved his disciple John, I think the one who was mentioned specially. People see what they want to see. If people want to see the truth, even if it goes against their attachments or fondly held beliefs or desires, then they will see the truth. Otherwise not.
I fully understand that there are all kinds of distorted and tortured interpretations of scripture. Dishonest readings of scripture will yield incredible interpretations (like the Jesus/John interpretation you cited above).
But, I don’t think the interpretation of Song of Solomon including oral sex is a particularly tortured one. I am not attempting to fit my view of Christian sexuality into the Bible — I am honestly trying to determine the view of Christian sexuality which the God intended to convey to us through His word.
>> I am firmly and immovably of the understand that the Song of Solomon does not describe sodomy aka oral sex [...]
On what basis have you arrived at your immovable understanding? That particular understanding seems rather arbitrary. Perhaps it is not I who am “seeing what I want to see” ... and, honestly, I’m not even sure what you’re claiming to see in those verses. You do not seem to present an alternate interpretation of the passages.
The “oral sex” interpretation of the Song of Solomon does not contradict any other passsages of the Bible as far as I am aware (such as referring to oral sex as inherently immoral). If the writer was intending to write an artfully-worded poetic passage referring to the act of oral sex ... wording it exactly as it was worded in Song of Solomon would be the most graceful (non-explicit) way of doing so. Song of Solomon is intentionally non-explicit ... how else is a writer to non-explicitly refer to such acts except through poetic descriptions like “his fruit was sweet to my taste”?
>> Ever heard of “tasting lips”? Or “tasting” used metaphorically? Especially in classic poetry analogies and elaborate similes and ornate descriptions are used to infer other things.
This is exactly what I am saying ... it is an “ornate description” used to infer other things (namely oral sex). “Taste” is used metaphorically, as is “his fruit”, and “in his shade I took great delight and sat down” (which sounds like kneeling to me).
“Lips” are referred to explicitly in the Song of Solomon (”Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb ...” — SOS 4:11) ... so if the author were referring to lips, he’d have likely said so (instead of “fruit”).
>> Example (just from my head, not quoting, but I’ve read poetry like this) - “We drank the cup of sweet ambrosia together” - when speaking of love. Does this mean that the lover and beloved had one cup of some drink called ambrosia? Or does it mean their love for one another was so sweet and made them feel unified and experience a type of sweet intoxication from their exchange of emotions?
Indeed. Poetry can be very difficult to interpret. But this isn’t mere poetry. It was included in God’s Word for a reason — it was meant to convey something to humanity (or at least to Christians). It seems to me to convey that married couples can and should enjoy each other to the fullest extent — these passages regarding oral sex seem to coincide with that.
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