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To: ExTxMarine
This is something I have been saying all along! Just like the illegals who come here and have a kid - their children are NOT citizens, because their parents are NOT citizens!

You are mistaken. The fourteenth amendment to the Constitution is very clear. If you are born in the United States, and you are subject to it's laws, you are a citizen by birth of the United States.

The exclusionary clause (and subject to the jurisdiction thereof) is for the cases of diplomats who are not under the U.S. jurisdiction.

If you don't like it, change the Constitution, but that is the law of the land.

6 posted on 06/22/2010 4:31:19 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“If you don’t like it, change the Constitution, but that is the law of the land.”

Please show me where it says that the exclusionary clause is for diplomats!

This is the “law of the land” because no one has directly challenged this view!

If the fourteenth amendment is very clear, then why did all American-born Indians have to get citizenship through a congressional law in 1924?!?!?!


7 posted on 06/22/2010 4:36:29 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“Let us appeal to enlightened and disinterested judges. No one is more so than Vattel.” Jefferson

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-foley?id=JefCycl.xml&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=9221&division=div2

“Vattel is one of the most zealous and constant advocates for the preservation of good faith in all our dealings”

Jefferson

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-foley?id=JefCycl.xml&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=9222&division=div2


17 posted on 06/22/2010 4:54:59 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; Las Vegas Ron; patlin; El Gato
Photobucket Citizens and Natural Born are different meanings.
23 posted on 06/22/2010 5:00:42 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“The exclusionary clause (and subject to the jurisdiction thereof) is for the cases of diplomats who are not under the U.S. jurisdiction.”??

Not true.

In the Slaughterhouse Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873), the Supreme Court stated, “The phrase, “subject to its jurisdiction” was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.”


115 posted on 06/23/2010 5:43:12 AM PDT by chatter4
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