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To: Sans-Culotte

Weren’t we using the same ROE under W?

No I think they were different then..

Under Obama a new medal is awarded: for “restraint”.

Face it

He’s a Marxist and a Muslim

and doesn’t want to succeed.

PS No life vests no oil cleanup ............


26 posted on 06/22/2010 6:39:17 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

No coffee for soldiers;

it’s funny, right?

Perhaps this is the reason why (from another thread today)

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A few years ago I lost my job of 31 years at a mid-size bank, and, to carry me over to retirement, I took a job as a store cashier.

It was my trip to the real world. I live and work in Cleveland and the clientele flowing through our store daily is enough to give one pause. A large number of customers are on the food stamp card.

Or, as I prefer to call it, the Junk Food Card.

The big game is for two people to live together – one with some income and the other drawing unemployment or welfare (or even both drawing welfare). It is very common for food card purchases to consist entirely of pop, candy, ice cream, etc.

Then out comes the big wad of cash for the beer and cigarettes. With most of these people it seems very likely that they have no inclination to work at all, and gaming the system is how they wish to live.


28 posted on 06/22/2010 6:44:33 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Not quite. Things have got exponentially more dangerous for US troops in the last year or so and not just because theres more action.There have been ROEs the McChrystal has been clearly responsible for that are plain illogical.

The U.S. commander in Afghanistan will soon order U.S. and NATO forces to break away from fights with militants hiding among villagers, an official said Monday, announcing one of the strongest measures yet to protect Afghan civilians.

The most contentious civilian casualty cases in recent years occurred during battles in Afghan villages when U.S. airstrikes aimed at militants also killed civilians. American commanders say such deaths hurt their mission because they turn average Afghans against the government and international forces …

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who took command of international forces in Afghanistan this month, has said his measure of effectiveness will be the “number of Afghans shielded from violence” — not the number of militants killed.

McChrystal will issue orders within days saying troops may attack insurgents hiding in Afghan houses if U.S. or NATO forces are in imminent danger, said U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Greg Smith.

“But if there is a compound they’re taking fire from and they can remove themselves from the area safely, without any undue danger to the forces, then that’s the option they should take,” Smith said. “Because in these compounds we know there are often civilians kept captive by the Taliban.”

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2009/06/23/changes-to-the-rules-of-engagement-for-afghanistan/

Is this a war or not? The civilians already hate us.


31 posted on 06/22/2010 6:55:16 AM PDT by DrBombbay
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