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To: The Theophilus; CORedneck; Quix; TaraP
You were saying ...

I mean, the US is Israel's only friend on the planet, yet Europe, China, Russia and every other place on Earth can orchestrate all kinds of horrific charges and plans against Israel, but for some odd reason, God hasn't chosen these largely corrupt, God hating nations for specific catastrophies.

I'll look up some other reference for you in regards to what you were saying ... as there is much out there about it. This is "standard" Evangelical fare and nothing unusual... so I wouldn't look at this as "off-the-wall" or anything like that. You personally may think so, but it's not so in Evangelical circles.

And as far as the support Israel has from the U.S. -- well, that will be disappearingin the coming months and years, depending on how long it is before the 7-year Tribulation starts, at which time the Antichrist is revealed and the 7-year peace agreement/treaty (or enforced treaty, however you want to present it) is done.

Israel will stand alone, with all the nations of the world against her and that will include the United States, too. And the United States will be judged just like all the other nations in the world.

You can see the U.S. moving away from supporting Israel and since the Oslo Accords, the U.S. has put pressure on Israel to "divide the land" which goes totally against what God says about that, and God says some very harsh things about those who try to divide the land of Israel -- which the U.S. is engaged in right now.

130 posted on 06/15/2010 10:31:23 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler; CORedneck; Quix; TaraP
This is "standard" Evangelical fare and nothing unusual... so I wouldn't look at this as "off-the-wall" or anything like that.

I don't doubt for a moment that this is standard among Evangelicals, I would go as far to say that it is a defining characteristic of Evangelicalism, a teaching that distinguishes Evangelicalism from orthodoxy.

...the U.S. has put pressure on Israel to "divide the land" which goes totally against what God says about that...

It is statements like that which I would like to see some sort of Scriptural support. You do realize that the Land Promise was already fulfilled (Josh 11:23;21:41-45) and again we see it fulfilled in Solomon's days. (1 Kings 4:20-21). In fact, the Scriptures sum up this whole process in Nehemiah: He fulfilled His promise (Neh 9:21-25), then they didn't fulfill their end of the promise (vv 26-29), which resulted in this "Therefore You gave them into the hand of the peoples of the land" (v30). God's mercy is shown in that though forever dispersed, they were/are not consumed nor forsaken (v31).

So according to Scripture, It has been God's regular M.O. to send in nations to chasten the disobedient and "stiff necked" Jews, routinely hauling them off into captivity and then after an exile restoring them, in part, to the land. IOW, God regularly has "divided them up" and has used as His instruments other nations. In 33AD this back and forth ended with Jesus Christ and Pentacost with 70AD physically preventing any sort of restoration to the curse of the Law (Gal 3:10-14) and bondage (4:21-31). So I see this theory Evangelicals have as actually contrary to what Scriptures demonstrate and teach, and surely antithetical to the Gospel.

Maybe I am missing something. Perhaps one of y'all can correct this perception.

165 posted on 06/16/2010 7:28:23 AM PDT by The Theophilus
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