Posted on 06/09/2010 12:06:14 PM PDT by jamese777
Ooh ooh - I added an extra “i” to a word!! Nullifies my entire argument, which of course you ignored.
Deal with it youself.
And you can stuff your support of 0thugga down your piehole and choke on it.
Ah, yes. When are argument is lost resort to the ad hominem attack. You and Obama have more in common than you think.
An easy way to spot an idiot is to compare a post to one of yours.
ROTFLOL!
Calling me and another poster “kids” a couple of times isn’t ad hominem?
You’re so full of crap you cannot see the simple truth.
Deal with it.
Verity - never was there a poster with a more ill-suited name.
POS for President.
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A “POS” likely has as much legitimacy as the current occupant of the Oval Office.
The manual for Court's Martial *requires* that an officer facing dismissal be allowed to present the affirmative defense that the order(s) were unlawful.
Now it might be that the Court would rule that the orders were lawful regardless of the eligibility of the order giver, but that a different matter than just the issue of did he disobey the orders or not.
Long time Obot, and an admitted paid Obot.
http://www.scribd.com/jamese777
http://boardreader.com/thread/Bachmann_Wont_Complete_Census_1py7vX37pz.html
http://obamaeligibility.org/forum/maya-soetoro-hawaiian-birth-certificate/
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/birther-army-doc-waives-hearing-court-martial-likely-to-move-ahead/
http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=7464&Disp=All
You can't have an Army in a Free Republic, where the officers refuse to follow the oath they are required to take before becoming officers. That oath does not require obeying orders, but it does require supporting and defending the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And this is why Lakin's acts were doomed from the beginning. And this is why those close to Lakin, those who cared for his well-being, pleaded him to get his head examined.
But Lakin ignored their advice and instead chose to surround himself with people who haven't the slightest clue as to what the hell they're talking about. And when Lakin's career is ruined and his freedom quite possibly restricted, the same people he aligned himself with and who's misguided advice he followed, the same people who have risked nothing while encouraging Lakin to throw away everything, will still be peddling the same nonsense, BS and completely fictional garbage on the internet.
The constitution provides that the *President* may be impeached for bribery, treason and other high crimes and misdemeanors. Two questions: Which is of those is "not eligible"? How can someone not eligible *be* President. The question for the courts, civilian or military, is "is he eligible? If he's not, he can't be impeached, because he is not President. If he is, there is nothing to impeach him for.. well expect Treason, Bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors.
Who is constitutionally authorized to decide if Obama is an enemy?
The Chief Justice's role is merely ceremoninal, that is not based on a Constitutional requirement. While the oath must be taken, it need not be adminstered by the Chief Justice, nor even taken orally.
Taking the oath is a requirement, jsut like being a Natural Born Citizen, 35 or over and 14 years a resident, but it does not make one President, the oath could be taken days before a person becomes President. The final item is the clock and calender, as now specified in the XXth amendment, section 1.
No one, which means everyone is. But as with other questions of Constitutional interpretation, the Courts generally have the last word.
Article III
Section. 1. The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Section. 2. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; — to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; — to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;
The Congress established the military *courts* just as much as it did the civilian courts.
It's not moot if one is asking a court to so declare him. Or just to declare him not eligible.
Which court is being asked?
Drew68 Please watch the videos that Lt. Col. Lakin has released. No one is forcing him to do anything. He is a very reasonable man who has chose to stand up for something that he believes in. He is a well respected highly decorated doctor who has signed birth certificates and knows a lot about the issues involved. He has plenty to lose and that is why him risking it all to try and get Obama to release the documents that any reasonable person should expect from our president will have great meaning to large numbers of people.
Jamese777, paid troll that he is... is correct when he points out that Obama’s camp will do almost anything to avoid having this go to Court Martial. All we have seen so far is posturing. If the good doctor contacted his CO tomorrow and offered to drop it... I can almost guarantee that all would be forgiven. It is only Col. Lakin’s determination which is keeping this going. The more unreasonably this is handled and the harsher his punishment... the more this will put pressure on Obama to release the documents. Just to assure the public and military personnel no reasonable person can make a good argument that this should not be done without any other incentive. This charade has gone on long enough!
What is the compensation rate? Is there a benefits package?
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