LOL!

The guy goin' to help the Arabs is too redneck sounding for this not to a humorous relief.

Correction: not to be humorous relief.

There were lots of American Islamo-sympathizers on those boats.

Uh....look, we need more proof.

No hostility to Israel, but they would have plenty to gain by maximizing the connection between the arab kooks we see here, and 9/11.

This could be ANYONE.

Few good old boys are praising the perpetrators of 9/11, you know?

Before, most of the rhetoric you would hear would mainly be “anti-zionist”

Now it is gone to full-blown unabashed anti-semitism.

Hoax?

Nope. It's real.

Accusation That Flotilla “Auschwitz” Exchange Was Faked Exposed As, errr, Fake

cifwatch

June 5, 2010

This is a cross-post by Ben Cohen of Z-Word

The IDF has now released an official clarification regarding the audio released yesterday of a radio communication in which a flotillista tells the Israeli Navy to “Go Back to Auschwitz.” Bottom line: the exchange is genuine. Those who questioned its authenticity – like Max Blumenthal and Ali Abunimah – have yet again revealed to the world that their grasp of such trifling matters as truth and falsehood is shaky at best.

The accusation that the audio was fake rested on the following “A-ha!” moment: labeled on YouTube as originating from the Mavi Marmara, the audio contained the voice of a passenger (Huwaida Arraf of the ghastly International Solidarity Movement) who was traveling on another ship in the flotilla. The IDF subsequently explained that the audio was incorrectly labeled, because what was recorded came from an open channel which all the ships in the flotilla could access. In any other context, the mislabeling would be seen as an honest, and rather insignificant, mistake, but in the fevered imagination of Max Blumenthal, it becomes a conspiracy.

Now that the principal argument for the faking accusation has been decisively hobbled, what other evidence exists to support Blumenthal? He accepts that the exchange occurred, if only because his pal Huwaida makes an appearance. So is he saying that the IDF doctored the tape and inserted the voices? Read his blog and you’ll see that he is, because he doesn’t find the foreign accents he hears convincing (I’ll bet Blumenthal hasn’t met that many foreigners, so he doesn’t get that one person can speak with American, Arabic, Francophone and many other inflections in their voice.) Not quite the smoking gun, in any case.

Back in the real world, the Rachel Corrie docked in Ashdod without incident and Hamas is back to doing what it does best: making the lives of ordinary Gazans a hellish misery. Since Blumenthal is unlikely to write about any of these things, perhaps he might find a moment to pen a quick retraction/humble apology for making accusations that are, to use his favorite word, “idiotic.”

Post #27 is to you as well.

I get suspicious of these recordings rather quickly. Many people can fake these things for many types of motives.

People come up with all kinds of URL’s that look official yet are designed to elicit a certain response only to use that response against “Good” people.

If it is OK I will continue to be suspicious and not let my guard down.

Question, question, question. Keep doing it.

The corollary to that is research, research, research.

No harm, no foul. Be suspicious. Question things that don't seem right.

/johnny

Always pays to be skeptical in this day and age.

But in this case, one of the pro-pali “debunkers” recognized the voice of one of his compatriots, who was aboard one of the flotilla ships. He himself was thereby debunked.

Have a nice evening.

But in this case, one of the pro-pali “debunkers” recognized the voice of one of his compatriots, who was aboard one of the flotilla ships. He himself was thereby debunked.

The IDF originally released the audio, stating that it was an exchange with the Marmara. The activist in question - the only person identified on the tape - was not on the Marmara. This is either a 'an honest, and rather insignificant, mistake' or else an indication of fabrication.

The IDF are now saying that they have no proof that the recording came from the flotilla ship - but this is also very odd, as even on an open channel, they ought not to mix up audio signals from two different ships.

If you listen, the anti-semitic remarks come in suddenly, with gaps which sound very like edits. No one has been able to identify those voices, and for some reason the IDF is not releasing the radio log of the seized ship, which could verify its claims.

But the pro-Pali debunker recognized his own friend’s voice on the tape. The voice of a friend who was definitely on one of the flotilla ships.

Looks to me like the debunker ends up lending quite a bit of credence to the recording.

The Israelis should be rewarded for killing these vermin.

there was another video at the site that showed Israelis trying to board from a boat. They had stuff dropped on them, chains brandished at them, and water hoses turned on them. Plus there was someone on a search light.

Twer me, searchlight operator would be dead, and so would the guys manning the fire hoses.Then I'd back off and call for air support. An Apache would clear the decks handily. Plus a hellfire or two would probably sink most of the ships in that "flotilla".

The IDF are now saying that they have no proof that the recording came from the flotilla ship - but this is also very odd, as even on an open channel, they ought not to mix up audio signals from two different ships.

On a single channel, you cannot tell the origin of a signal. It's like an old fashioned party line. That's why the IDF navy identified themselves when calling on the radio. You can't tell if a different radio came up, or someone took the microphone at the one you'd already been listening too.

Why did you copy my thread in your post, including all the work and time I spent formatting? Then you didn't ping me, let alone give me credit for the all the work I put into it.

Do you always steal other people's work? I am going to request that your post be removed.