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Master of mendacity: Obama and the birthers
World Net Daily ^ | June 01, 2010 | David Solway

Posted on 06/05/2010 9:57:28 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Most of the online sites and print venues have declined to publish anything that deals with this inflammable subject. Why such reluctance? One editor explained that they are wary of falling into a trap in which, having printed an article disputing the president's bona fides, the documents attesting to his authenticity are suddenly sprung on them, leaving them with egg on their faces and strengthening the president's authority. This is an unlikely hypothesis.

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Some people consider the "birther" controversy an unfortunate distraction from more important matters, as, for example, Obama's propensity for making inexplicable decisions or the mass of other significant documents kept under seal. Focusing on the affair, they say, is counter-productive. Many feel it is nothing but a slanderous and partisan campaign that does not merit the attention of mature observers. Still others are simply afraid of being mercilessly ridiculed and written off as wingnuts, or intuit it is demonstrably unsafe to meddle in such concerns. And many, too, simply cannot believe that a hoax of this enormity can have been successfully perpetrated in a free society and consequently cannot but regard the birther claims as the product of deranged minds – but then, the worldwide AGW scam might have educated us to such possibilities. The malign influence of a complicit media is extremely powerful, seeping into the consciousness of even the most hardened skeptics and leaving a residue of unwarranted belief in the untenable or problematic. Finally, some who suspect the birthers may be right feel it would do more harm to America to expose an imposture of this magnitude than to let it run its course until the next election when Obama might be voted out of office. "Might be," regrettably, is not "will be."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Seizethecarp

Seizethecarp,

About Corsi, I wonder how much info he was able to get, if any... they didn’t want him yakking about it right then and there, so they booted him out... gonna do some digging.

Gag orders are to keep adverse information from coming out.
Adverse info in this case COULD be statements like
“oh, yes, that skinny little nephew of mine, I held him when he was just 2 weeks old; who woulda thought that when he was all grown up, he’d become Pres__ent of the US! I’m mighty proud of him”
Or
“We’re putting up a commemorative plaque in our village that says ‘0 was born here’; we’d like to raise money for it”

If 0 WAS born there, why would the Gov’t be embarrassed about it to the point of booting out an investigator and slapping a gag order on 0’s folks there?

If he WASN’T born there, maybe thats why they showed Corsi the door and told 0’s folks not to say anything?

which one fits better?


21 posted on 06/05/2010 11:52:21 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

I went and read those two WND Corsi links and related info, it seems that Corsi was digging into 0’s support of a candidate/head of gov’t there... I can see why Kenya gov’t folks would be upset at that.


22 posted on 06/05/2010 12:13:33 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57
“Adverse info in this case COULD be statements like
‘oh, yes, that skinny little nephew of mine, I held him when he was just 2 weeks old; who woulda thought that when he was all grown up, he’d become Pres__ent of the US! I’m mighty proud of him’”

Too late on that one, but you may be a bit psychic!

Obama’s step grandma, Mama Sarah Obama, said almost exactly what you suggest earlier this year when she was given an honorary Ph.D for caring for orphans in her village:

“’This is a show of blessing from God, since I have always dedicated my time to tend to the orphans. Even the US president passed through my hands,’ added the grandmother.”

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/regional/Obamas%20grandmother%20throws%20party%20/-/1070/912088/-/132bh0/-/index.html

23 posted on 06/05/2010 12:28:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: wintertime
I am not ready to judge them as you have. The expression 'timing is everything' seems to apply to obama eligibility challenges.

If I took a long term view when obama was elected, I would recognize the enthusiasm for and historical nature of his election and admit it would be foolish to waste my best ammo on someone who is temporarily invincible, in spite of the righteousness of my Constitutional cause. That would be a time of planning, not action.

I would also recognize the extreme radicalism of obama and the demonrats and know they would not be able to stop themselves from doing things that would shock and abhor a majority of Americans. And...

Given that obama's persona and resume are fictional creations and he appears to be poster boy for NPD, it is merely a matter of time before Americans realize they've been deceived by the state run media and the demonrat party and openly begin to wonder what else they've been told about obama are lies.

When conditions are right, what was once impossible becomes possible and even those who once supported him will be birthers. obama could very well be the stake through the heart of progressivism.

But, first those conservative radio talking heads must do the job the media won't do and report on obama and what he and the progressives are doing to the country. They are doing their part to help events and opinion take shape.

How slowly the fuse burns and then how suddenly it all blows up.

24 posted on 06/05/2010 12:32:50 PM PDT by GBA (Resistance is Constitutional!)
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To: GBA
So?....The only thin straw that might redeem these dispicable so-called “conservative” yappers is possible “timing”? Well?...We shall see.

To me it really is straightforward. Patriots defend the **entire** Constitution all the time, even those little itty bitty phrases like “natural born”.

If Rush Limbaugh, and the rest, can't do that in the face of a little ridicule, I really have no confidence he and the others will do it when facing tanks in the streets, firing squads with open trenches to catch the dead, jack boots marching on May Day, or when the cattle cars are being loaded up.

25 posted on 06/05/2010 1:14:30 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Seizethecarp

seizethecarp,

LOL on being psychic...

Wonder how old 0 was when he “passed thru” Grandma’s hands?

Thats the $64,000 question!

Gag orders be d@mned, eh?

Don’t let anybody tell you what you can or can’t say, Granny Obama!


26 posted on 06/05/2010 1:27:27 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Steely Tom
The minute such documents were uncovered the minute the questions would arise as to who else knew about it. There would also be a few questions as to what would be the status of the laws he's signed while fraudulently holding office.

That's why I'm starting to think that the eligibility issue may never be allowed to be resolved. If it looks like eligibility is going to explode, Obama will be induced to resign or otherwise removed from the scene and the whole eligibility issue will be declared moot, time to more on, etc., etc. There are just too many of the rich and powerful who vouched for Obama.

27 posted on 06/05/2010 2:57:51 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Menehune56

Disagree. The information will come out. The only thing that Obama & his key supporters can control is whether he’s in office when it does.


28 posted on 06/05/2010 5:12:46 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: wintertime

” Wild Irish Rogue, please read post #12.”

I did see your excellent post and I meant to applaud you for raising the most salient points .
Amen to very single point you raised.
Only a dirtbag Commander in Chief would sit by and allow Lt Col Lakin to be court martialed .
Assistant U.S. Attorneys Roger West and David DeJute basically argued that objections to Barry’s eligibility
should have been argued prior to the election and the Electoral College vote.
I understand that plaintiffs who tried to file suit beforehand were told to wait until after the election was certified.
If George Bush had used AUSAs from John Ashcroft’s DOJ to continue the birth certificate cover up-the Democrats and the media would have gone berserk.
I expect the Democrats and the media to defend Barry’s foul behavior,
it’s disappointing that so many on the right are either afraid to speak about the issue or ignorant of the basic facts.


29 posted on 06/05/2010 5:22:43 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Tallguy

The information will come out.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How do you think this will happen?


30 posted on 06/05/2010 5:27:36 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

A foreign intelligence service will leak it when the stakes get high enough.


31 posted on 06/05/2010 5:33:54 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Have you read AGJ: Obama’s Tribe: Letter of the day!?
32 posted on 06/05/2010 5:34:48 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
it’s disappointing that so many on the right are either afraid to speak about the issue or ignorant of the basic facts.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

These conservative yappers who seem ignorant of the basic facts, are NOT ignorant. They are deliberately LYING!

33 posted on 06/05/2010 5:35:28 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Seizethecarp

I agree. This will be the first elected President that will be a lame duck in his first year holding the position. The heads are falling daily, people are quitting in numbers from his administration or refusing to serve. Newspapers continue to fail, reporters to get fired, TV anchors to lose following, reporters forced out of the front row of the White House newsroom, like I said, unprecidented. The Good Old Boy network, is running like rats for cover, and I don’t mean the Republican party (GOP). Democrats will not vote on spending measures for fear of their jobs. Its too late, November is a day of cleansing. And if we can’t take the head of the snake out, we will remove his fangs, and leave nothing to support him. Eventually, we will replace those that help him to hide, and force him to resign, or prove he is qualified to lead. Personally, I don’t think, at this point, that he has the integrity that allows him to admit he lied. I think he would rather die, and I think there are those who would facilitate that end, should he decide to be more forthright in his own party. In the end, it is my hope that he is discovered for what he is, good or bad, by his hand, or others, that when he is no longer valid, whether as President, or after he is gone, that they repeal health care, let companies that cannot support themselves fail, and pay back what monies that have not been spent, take the loss and deficit to our treasuries as a difficult and expensive lesson, that we were asleep at the wheel, and trusted a bunch of people who we should not have trusted. I think alot of people need to go to jail, but if that does not happen, they should never work for the people again, and should lose all accrued benefits. In a perfect world. Reid, and Pelosi, should have to survive on Medicare and Social Security, and contemplate getting prescription drugs from out of the country, because their lives depended on those drugs, and they finally realize that the government they created, does not give a sh!t about them...Maybe, they need to live and die by what they created for others, with no realization that they had to live that way too. My first choice is Jail, and not white collar jail either...Hope I don’t seem too unkind...


34 posted on 06/07/2010 3:06:43 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

The shame of it we had to trust McCain to keep this guy honest.

I clearly remember, June or July of 2008, reading all the BS about his birth certificate. I remember thinking McCain thought he had it in the bag and wanted the NBC issue closed.

McCain the Panamanian born Senator gave us our first Kenyan born President. Both the GOP and DNC ....SUCK.


35 posted on 06/10/2010 2:31:24 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Seizethecarp

“Why such reluctance?”

Wild guess, but because it’s a BS issue and a waste of time.


36 posted on 06/16/2010 11:36:02 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: wintertime

“that Obama has hired a team of lawyers to make sure they remain that way”

This is a stupid, stupid charge. Politicians have teams of lawyers and piles of money waiting for whatever comes up. The idea that only after the situation arose did he go out and buy protection is silly beyond words.


37 posted on 06/16/2010 11:38:23 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: wintertime

“Why should we trust these yappers who claim to care so much about the Constitution?”

Because in this case they’re right. As is the legal establishment, and pretty much everybody save spotlight-seekers and those with irrational hopes of throwing Obama out of office before 2013.


38 posted on 06/16/2010 11:40:20 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: 353FMG

“Doesn’t it bother our congresscritters that another country claims him as a citizen?”

Does it bother you that the Irish worship JFK?


39 posted on 06/16/2010 11:41:18 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Who’s JFK?


40 posted on 06/16/2010 12:28:57 PM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's assured road to destruction.)
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