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Hoarding Euros May Seal Greece’s Fate
IBD's Capital Hill ^ | 6/4/2010 | Jed Graham

Posted on 06/04/2010 8:54:36 AM PDT by Slyscribe

A key difference between Greece’s fiscal crisis and crises in nations with their own currency is that its citizens’ wealth wouldn’t be destroyed by a devaluation.

In the case of Greece, a devaluation could only be achieved by leaving the euro and reviving the drachma at some significant discount to the common currency. But because Greeks hold their savings in euros, their monetary wealth would remain untouched — at least if their bank deposits are secure.

This reality may make the prospect of Greece leaving the euro somewhat less frightening to Greeks — and somewhat more likely to occur.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: currency; euro; europeandebtcrisis; greece
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1 posted on 06/04/2010 8:54:36 AM PDT by Slyscribe
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To: Slyscribe

What exactly happens when a currency becomes worthless? Is it pretty much just worth whatever the material is worth?


2 posted on 06/04/2010 8:56:12 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Slyscribe

Over spending = devaluation.


3 posted on 06/04/2010 8:58:42 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: rarestia
I have some $1Million Mark notes I would sell you from the old Wiemar Republic.
4 posted on 06/04/2010 8:59:11 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Slyscribe

Euros may become collector items.


5 posted on 06/04/2010 8:59:20 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: BubbaBobTX

I have a 500 billion Weimar note, hee hee.


6 posted on 06/04/2010 9:00:20 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: highlander_UW

Euros are so bland they have very limited appeal to collectors.


7 posted on 06/04/2010 9:00:47 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: BubbaBobTX

I meant that to be a serious question. Do they just become collector’s items?


8 posted on 06/04/2010 9:01:14 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: C19fan
Euros are so bland they have very limited appeal to collectors.

True, and even if they are removed from circulation, there are tons of them out there still. It'd take decades for the numbers to go down enough for them to be rare.

9 posted on 06/04/2010 9:01:49 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: rarestia

During the Weimar Republic hyperinflation they were used as wall paper or in Hungary in 1946 you can pick them up from the street. There days you can sell them on eBay, hee hee.


10 posted on 06/04/2010 9:01:59 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: rarestia

I collect hyperinflation notes. Pretty cheap hobby. You can buy Weimar notes for around a buck or two per note.


11 posted on 06/04/2010 9:02:54 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Slyscribe
But because Greeks hold their savings in euros, their monetary wealth would remain untouched — at least if their bank deposits are secure.

They'll probably do what Mexico did some years back. They seized all the dollar accounts their people had, converted them to pesos and then devalued the peso. It's no wonder a lot of foreigners don't trust banks and hold physical dollars instead.

12 posted on 06/04/2010 9:04:45 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Slyscribe

Thatcher was right


13 posted on 06/04/2010 9:05:51 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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a big question is what happens to greek citizen deposits in either greek or other EU banks. Traditionally, countries forcibly convert their serfs’ currency holdings wherever they can touch them (argentina 2003), but in this case, it seems somewhat nebulous.


14 posted on 06/04/2010 9:06:34 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: highlander_UW

I doubt it — the Euro could become the currency for stronger economies in Europe, like Germany/France, while the basket case Club Med countries (like Greece) would exit the building.


15 posted on 06/04/2010 9:10:24 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Slyscribe
at least if their bank deposits are secure.

And when has a government ever confiscated bank deposits/gold/retirement accounts/land, etc.?

If the Greeks are hoarding Euros, they better either be in accounts outside the country (and even those might not be safe) or underneath their mattresses. €100,000 in €500 notes would be under an inch thick.

16 posted on 06/04/2010 9:11:45 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: Chet 99
I doubt it — the Euro could become the currency for stronger economies in Europe, like Germany/France, while the basket case Club Med countries (like Greece) would exit the building.

I'm not a financial economist (I just had a few econ classes in college), but it seems that the larger economies might become skittish in having their monetary systems linked with a common currency because it makes them even more subject to another nation's economic woes. And, of course, there is the issue of national pride. If much of Europe rolls back to their own currency, will the more solvent ones not feel inclined to do so as well? I'm not arguing this is the case, I'm just throwing out some questions/thoughts.

17 posted on 06/04/2010 9:14:13 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: Slyscribe

Another excellent article from IBD. I hadn’t thought of the euro/savings angle. Holders of Greek debt have to be really second guessing themselves.


18 posted on 06/04/2010 9:16:37 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Slyscribe

When I was a kid we used to threaten to pay one-another back in “Confederate dollars”. ‘nuff said!


19 posted on 06/04/2010 9:23:11 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Slyscribe
Worthless money I wish I had.


20 posted on 06/04/2010 4:00:27 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Flip Both Houses)
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