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To: rightwingjew
The John Birch Society does not believe in a world Jewish conspiracy. If you think they do please present some evidence.

Looks like it's going to be one of those days.

The evidence I have is my own experiences in the JBS. I am willing to believe your experiences have been different than mine. But will you respect my experiences as well?

My personal theory has long been that the JBS is the "blue lodge" of the anti-Semitic movement. As such it cannot "officially" be anti-Semitic. But it sure has and has had oodles of anti-Semitic members and leaders over the years, and its conspiracy theory is merely anti-Semitism with the word "Jews" removed. Many people after spending some time in the Society draw the conclusions and move on into the anti-Semitic movement proper. The list of anti-Semitic leaders who got their start in the JBS is legion.

I notice you have said nothing (to me at least) about Ron Paul. Both Paul and Pat Buchanan are heroes to the JBS (especially Paul, who may actually be a member). While I agree that the US should let Israel take care of business, that is not what this thread is about. This thread is about that Ron Paul did not say to let Israel take care of business. He stuck his big Nazi bazoo into the situation in order to attack Israel and side with its enemies--as he and "palaeocons" always do.

You may take the JBS. I'll stick with "fat Zionists" like John Hagee (though I don't share his theology).

73 posted on 06/05/2010 7:50:46 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vatiftach ha'aretz 'et-piyha vativla` 'otam ve'et-bateyhem; ve'et kol-ha'adam 'asher leQorach . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You cite your experiences. Please describe one.

Name some of the leaders past and or present who in your opinion are anti semitic. As far as members being thus really proves nothing as many people hate Jews and you will find them everywhere even in your local bowling leagues.

I am willing to be convinced. Nu, so be specific and convince me.

I did talk radio for ten years. I interviewed John McManus many times. He was the JBS head PR guy. I did hours of radio with him. He was then IMHO a straight shooting guy not at all bigoted against anyone. The JBS believes that the CFR and TLC have the real power in this world which transcends all gov’ts and they manipulate pols to globalize. That is their complete schtick or at least it was in the late 80s and early 90s when i was familiar with them. I think they get close to the truth and as a result get tared with the ‘anti-semitic’ smear to discredit them. The book, “Shadows of Power” was written by a Jew and presents the JBS theory. I forget the author’s name but you should be able to find it if you want.

I suspect that you like many others have believed what the MSM have said about the JBS. You think they are anti semitic but cannot cited specific examples.

As far as Ron Paul is concerned, I have lost all respect for him. Anybody who cannot see through arab terrorism against Israel in this flotilla deal is either ignorant or dislikes Jews. Dr. Paul is not ignorant so it must be the latter. It is ironic that Ludwig Von Mises was a Jew and it is the institute which bears his name that Paul and all the libertarians subscribe to. Also, a deceased gold bullion dealer, Burt Blumert, whom I knew personally was one of Paul’s best friends and a Jew. There are others as well.

Now, be a mensch, and indict the JBS with real examples of anti semitic sayings or writings if you can. I am waiting.

Hank


74 posted on 06/07/2010 6:50:36 PM PDT by rightwingjew
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