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To: Leisler
The thing is the police said, and say, that they use dynamic entry and flash bangs to disorientate people.

I'm old enough to remember when LEO didn't have to use such tactics in doing their jobs, at least almost never.

I also understand criminals and times have changed to a degree, but I still believe most perps when faced with a no-win situation like the police have you surrounded will give up in hopes of living another day or die by police suicide.

This escalation of police tactics across the board only happened when the Clinton administration started funding such SWAT teams.

Heck even small cities have full blown para military units with in the police depts.

40 posted on 05/16/2010 11:40:07 AM PDT by Popman (Balsa wood: Obama Presidential timber)
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To: Popman

It’s good that this training and equipment is availble.

I suspect that with high costs, budgets, the idea of having forty cops surround a house isn’t possible. Especially in a crime busy, bad criminal population, broke city like Detroit.

Further, this is the way the DPD as a crew as it were, handles it. This is the way THEY want to do it. Maybe even the softest amongst us would quickly come around to their view.

In the end, theory aside, I have to a bit bow to the guys doing the job. I’m sure they don’t wake up every day and say lets do it the hard way day in day out.

I’m in a pretty low crime area and talking to the LEO’s over a beer they just feel the kids/criminals are just wacked, crazy, stupid crazy. They don’t mind rational criminals that ask for a lawyer, that’s rare. It’s the psycho drama mental F’ups that think four cruisers and six officers that lift weights and do this crap day in day out that the criminal class is so whacked mentally to think that there is any other outcome but loose. In a way it shakes them to realize they are not dealing with rational people. And of course if you are professional rational criminal, the courts treat you worse than if you can prove,show, act that you are crazy and one of the ways is to take on the arresting police offices. So there is a built in incentive to go wacky upon arrest. How crazy is that?


49 posted on 05/16/2010 12:05:28 PM PDT by Leisler
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