That's what they're doing now. Everybody knows Lexus is Toyota. But when people like my uncle buy expensive, they buy Lexus, not Toyota.
They don't have anything even at the same level as the Corolla, that even comes close to selling in the same vast quantities that the Corolla does.
You of course want to compare with the #1 selling car. Fact: They have a low-end that most people can afford, that is competitive in price with non-luxury brands such as Toyota, Honda, Renault and Fiat. They sell a lot more than their high-end (i.e., the only Mercedes that until recently you thought existed). Did you know that in Europe Toyota actually has two car models lower than the Yaris? One of them is a Scion over here.
It's the original idea that matters. The one that starts it all.
Ideas mean nothing without proper development and getting it to the users. How many failed tablet computers have there been? Has the iPad surpassed all their combined historical sales figures yet? If not yet, soon.
Same idea executed by Google could have been equally great, just like their execution of Android, which they acquired from someone else, has been great.
Not as good as the iPhone. I do like it, and use it. It's just not quite as polished as the iPhone OS.
That's why firms regularly have to pay hundreds of millions for patent violations, just because someone else thought of an idea first.
Now demonstrating a woefully inadquate understanding of patents.
Same with Google.
Nope. Google doesn't have to sell phones. They only need to get established manufacturers to carry their OS and marketshare follows.
Google’s achievement is much more impressive.Again, after all, Google had never been in the consumer electrics or hardware business before. Apple had been in the hardware business for obver 30 years!
Google basically created a flavor of mobile Linux. How many Linux flavors are there? Thousands? Apple created a mobile OS from BSD and its desktop libraries, with a revolutionary interface (copied by even Android), and created a phone to go with it. That is a much bigger accomplishment, not to mention Apple pushing the fundamental change in the manufacturer/carrier relationship that opened all new phones such as the Android to new abilities.
Again, there were plenty of smartphone OS’s out there. Samsung and LG both used to own stakes in Symbian, and have been using Symbian for years, long before Android even came out. Samsung has even developed their own smart phone OS.
And back in 240 you were trying to downplay the role that these two large manufacturers had in pushing Android to its present marketshare. I noticed no response about Sony/Ericsson, a major smartphone manufacturer, adopting Android.
Other OS’s were busy fighting over the market before Google came in.
True, as we now see major manufacturers dropping Symbian and Windows Mobile in favor of Android, instantly giving it a huge marketshare.
It IS their own OS.
Keep up the weaseling.
Same thing. They are buying a Toyota Lexus. You are talking like kids who are playing a game, and taking money from one pocket to another, and thinking their money has increased, when in fact they still have exactly the same money they had before.
“You of course want to compare with the #1 selling car”
Naturally. That's why the Corolla is a low cost mass market, mass selling car, and the lower models of the BMW are not.
“Fact: They have a low-end that most people can afford, that is competitive in price with non-luxury brands such as Toyota, Honda, Renault and Fiat”
Nope.
If they were as competitive, they'd sell as much as the mass market cars from these firms. They don't.
“Ideas mean nothing without proper development and getting it to the users. “
/srac Yeah...Is that why firms are paying billions every year for patent infringements from people no one has even heard of, just based on ideas that they just happened to have before anyone else did, and then patented?
“Not as good as the iPhone. I do like it, and use it. It's just not quite as polished as the iPhone OS”
Android phones are outselling the iPhones. Consumers and the market, have spoken, and are voting for Androids as superior, despite all the spin from the Applebots.
“Google doesn't have to sell phones.”
They do actually. It's called Nexus One.
” They only need to get established manufacturers to carry their OS and marketshare follows”
Those manufacturers had plenty of mobile OS’s that they had been using long before Android was even written That Android came from nowhere, and quickly displaced the other OS’s shows the power and quality of Android.
“Google basically created a flavor of mobile Linux. How many Linux flavors are there? Thousands?”
Again there were plenty of mobile OS’s based in Linux before Android. What market share did they ever get?
“That is a much bigger accomplishment, not to mention Apple pushing the fundamental change in the manufacturer/carrier relationship that opened all new phones such as the Android to new abilities”
Nonsense.
Taking from BSD is not any better than taking from Linux.
Google followed the same manufacturer/carrier relationship that Win Mo, Symbian and other OS makers had. Had nothing to do with Apple.
Only difference is Google gave away their OS for free(something Apple has never done in their lives), and chose to make money from search instead.
“And back in 240 you were trying to downplay the role that these two large manufacturers had in pushing Android to its present marketshare”
Huh?
You are confused ain't ya?
In #240, I said neither of LG nor Samsung had ever had high market shares in the smartphone business. That is correct. That doesn't mean they were not using Symbian in their smart phones does it?
You need to brush up on your logicm buddy.
“True, as we now see major manufacturers dropping Symbian and Windows Mobile in favor of Android, instantly giving it a huge marketshare”
Symbian is still by far the biggest in smart phone market share. By the third quarter of this year, Andriod will be taking big chunks of market share from the iPhone. The iPhone’s market share has nowhere to go, but down. It's inevitable.
“Keep up the weaseling.”
Keep being in denial.