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To: porter_knorr

Forgive me but I believe what you perceive as rudeness may just be passion and complete and utter disappointment. My view of abortion comes from friends and family members who had abortions and how their tragic stories affected me. Bad choices have serious consequences for women who have had abortions for years. Of the ones I know the men were the reasons why those women got abortions, they insisted. And NONE of them had good role models for mothers and had bad relationships with their mothers. If Mrs. Bush truly believes in support of things as abortion and gay marriage for me as another woman it takes away from what she tried to represent herself as first lady. She speaks of abortion as that protecting a woman’s life, using that excuse is so completely BS. Of the five women I spoke to it had nothing to do with health!! In fact two of them got pregnant again because of depression after having their first abortions only to have another abortion. You see they were still with the same men who wanted them to get the first abortions to begin with but these women, girls I should say and so they again got abortions. Having a prominent woman such as Mrs. Bush who is suppose to be a conservative, which of course we know now is not, to come out like this promoting her book and her support for such issues as abortion and gay marriage shows where her true loyalty was all along. With this Obama administration now one of the most prochoice supporters and Mrs. Bush comes out now with this? My respect is not given easily because it is so meaningful to me and I feel like it was just a slap to conservatives, maybe because she did have to keep her mouth shut for so long. But everybody knows how contentious the political games are now with the elections coming up in Nov. and now she speaks up? It is because of my experiences and being a woman that this just seriously angers me. Of the 50
million abortions how many were to protect the health of the woman Mrs. Bush?


518 posted on 05/13/2010 1:29:53 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: red irish

No, I read the rudeness and condescension in the initial response. We can be passionate and disagree about fine points with each other and still be polite.

I walk the Pro-Life talk, it’s not just talk to me. I have been passionately pro-life since I have been old enough to understand what abortion was. Even so, I have heard the initial whisper run through my head that said “no one has to know.” Followed by the next thought of “and your soul will wither away...your choice was to not get pregnant, dummy!”

I know first hand how friends (and I was in my 30’s, not a teen) mentioned “you have options” - and I will tell you, not once did I think about the president’s wife. My only thought was this is a human life that I am now responsible for (and she is now the greatest joy I know.)

I will also say, the pro-life crowd (FR included) has some of the harshest things to say about single moms. You can’t have it both ways - you can’t (and I don’t mean you directly) be anti-abortion, and then talk about bastard children.

What Mrs. Bush says, won’t influence the pro-life movement, she’s never claimed that title. She’s not rabidly pro-abortion, she qualifies her statement - so she’s not a mouthpiece of the pro-death movement either. I think she could easily move to the pro-life side - and I won’t write off that possibility.

I clearly have a posting history of being pro-life, I believe that when people who make our laws have the value of human life where it needs to be, everything else falls into place.

And for the record, I’d still rather see Mrs. Bush as first lady instead of what we have now.


571 posted on 05/13/2010 4:14:44 PM PDT by porter_knorr (John Adams would be arrested for his thoughts on tyrants today!)
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