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America’s choice: Arizona or San Francisco?
The Payson Roundup ^ | May 11, 2010 | AZ State Sen. Russell Pearce, author of SB 1070

Posted on 05/11/2010 7:57:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you’re a white person driving south of the border, say tijuana or Ensenada areas you are likely to be pulled over by Mexican police and shaken down for money. They’ll make up some charge like speeding (which you weren’t) and demand to know how much money you have on you, (hopefully you have most of your money hidden well). If you don’t have enough money on you then you will be arrested and maybe even beaten up by these bastards. You will be taken to Mexican jail until you can have someone send you enough money to pay these criminals off. All only because you are a white American and they think you are rich.

It all amounts to RACIAL PROFILING by Mexican police thugs who are just out to “legally” rob you just because you’re not a Mexican and therefore are fair game.

I have many friends that this has happened to, and I’ve heard many more stories of this and worse. Anyone you talk to in SOCAL that has been to Mexico will attest to the truth of this.

I’m not saying that we should profile, but the people who decry this law as profiling should at least consider the huge difference in our two countries police.


21 posted on 05/11/2010 8:24:31 PM PDT by Bullish (Light skinned with no negro dialect (unless I want one))
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To: Art in Idaho

I got news for you-there was already a boycott of SF and LA LOOONG before 1070 was an issue. I know people (including myself) who need to be dragged to SF-and I live an hour away from that cesspool.


22 posted on 05/11/2010 8:29:40 PM PDT by tanuki (Obamacare, Cap and Tax, Amnesty, in that order....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does the question really come down to the rule of law vs the rule of twisted special interests? That’s not even a choice.


23 posted on 05/11/2010 8:30:45 PM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A few years ago there was a stink over Chicago sending their homeless to Arizona.


24 posted on 05/11/2010 8:47:57 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Bullish

“Anyone you talk to in SOCAL that has been to Mexico will attest to the truth of this.”

Bollocks. I live in Socal and travel to volunteer at an orphanage in La Mision, halfway between Rosarito and Ensenada. I’ve never even been stopped, much less stopped and shaken down for cash. That’s not to say it doesn’t happen, but to say it’s a common thing to be stopped for no reason, beaten, and thrown into a Mexican prison is ignorant fear-mongering. And it’s no better than the American media shoveling sh!t about how there are decapitated bodies lying all over Mexico and bullets flying faster than the wild west. Go visit Door of Faith orphanage (dofo.org) and you’ll see the REAL Mexico.

(And just to keep it on-topic: politicians like this make me want to move to AZ. Those folks have restored my faith in humanity among legislators.)


25 posted on 05/11/2010 8:49:46 PM PDT by pcgTheDestroyer
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To: Bullish
It all amounts to RACIAL PROFILING by Mexican police thugs who are just out to “legally” rob you just because you’re not a Mexican and therefore are fair game

Actually it is economic profiling. They will shake down a Mexican citizen also if they think they have money. The Mexican citizen will probably pay less as he knows how "la mordita" works.

I am a white boy that speaks Spanish. My wife is from Mexico but her English is much better than mine. They insist on that when you teach at a University in Texas. We will no longer go to Mexico unless it is by plane to a tourist area where it is safe. Years ago I would travel all over Mexico by car in perfect safety. Occasionally I did pay a little "Mordita." Today I read in the papers about Mexican and American citizens being murdered on the same road I drove in the past.

It has all gone to hell South of the border.

27 posted on 05/11/2010 8:58:37 PM PDT by cpdiii (Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: cpdiii

I forgot to add, “I MISS THE OLD DAYS OF MY YOUTH ON THE BORDER.” I think they are gone forever.


28 posted on 05/11/2010 9:01:44 PM PDT by cpdiii (Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: cpdiii

I’ve heard from a friend of mine who has a Spanish speaking girlfriend with him when he goes that it helps a lot if someone in your car speaks Spanish, but he still always hides most of his cash keeping 50-100$ to pay off just in case. It may happen to Mexicans too but believe me they are looking for American license plates.


29 posted on 05/11/2010 9:03:11 PM PDT by Bullish (Light skinned with no negro dialect (unless I want one))
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To: Morgana
it became clear that San Francisco is merely ahead of the California crazy curve.

and there it is...

30 posted on 05/11/2010 9:10:29 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: tanuki
I got news for you-there was already a boycott of SF and LA LOOONG before 1070 was an issue. I know people (including myself) who need to be dragged to SF-and I live an hour away from that cesspool.

Good news! Keep it up folks. BBLA, Boycott the Bay area and LA!

31 posted on 05/11/2010 9:12:56 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

right on, right on, right on...


32 posted on 05/11/2010 9:13:24 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: Art in Idaho
How about BB, Boycott the Bay area?

Funny you should mention that. A couple of weeks before the Arizona bill was passed, and then signed into law, I was visiting my family in California, and they shanghaied me for a day trip to San Fransicko.

If it weren't for the fact that I haven't seen them in years, and really did miss them, I would have passed on that outing in a heartbeat.

Fortunately, I only had to donate parking money to that Commie city by the Bay. My kin picked up the rest of the tab that day.

33 posted on 05/11/2010 9:17:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm telling ya, the silent majority has finally had enough. Aren't you tired of seeing self-serving narcissistic sociopaths running this country? And that label isn't just for our “boy-president” either.

We're outraged when Pelosi has the gall to ask priests to support amnesty when her butt should have been excommunicated for her stance on abortion long ago.

We're grieved by a former body builder who has run his state into the ground claiming that he is “afraid to go to AZ because his Austrian accent might get him deported.”

And we're furious when our moron of a president stands before a crowd and tells them that if you take your kid to get ice cream in AZ you're going to be profiled.

The abject irresponsibility of all of these and more individuals has finally lifted us off our seats and our voices to the skies saying “No more!”

No more.

34 posted on 05/11/2010 9:17:21 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: Bullish

I’m with you! We will not set foot in Mexico anymore. In PV, we were at a Pemex (govt. gas station). They didn’t roll it back to zero the first time and then tried to short us change! So it is not just the border cities. Friend was arrested for urinating in a public place even though he was doing so with other bar patrons from Mexico. He got arrested! Came back to the US with no money or jewelry. It’s a lawless hell hole, IMO. Don’t see the need to throw away more money to folks destroying America when I can fix a damn good margarita at home and food that won’t poison us!


35 posted on 05/11/2010 9:17:32 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe POS nobama should have read the law before shooting off his mouth and saying,
"You can imagine, if you are a Hispanic-American in Arizona — your great-grandparents may have been there before Arizona was even a state. But now, suddenly, if you don't have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you're going to be harassed. That's something that could potentially happen. That's not the right way to go."
Source.

Too bad Senator Pearce didn't quote that in his article.

36 posted on 05/11/2010 9:17:55 PM PDT by upchuck (If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- forever. "1984")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Great letter by AZ State Sen. Russell Pearce, author of SB 1070. Every dimWit & pro-illegal alien or supporter should be forced to read the letter and then explain why this law SG 1070 is so atrocious since it merely codifies existing Federal law into AZ state statutes.

Bastard liberals & socialists.... I hate em more every day, especially 0b0z0, commie RAT bastard usurper-in-chief.

37 posted on 05/11/2010 9:20:34 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: cpdiii

I think the economic, rather than racial, angle is far more likely. I’m also a white boy and my wife is Mexican (and we’re both bilingual)... but again, we simply haven’t had any occasion to even test the theory that that makes any difference. I believe the “mordita” part (which is the way things work in nearly every other part of the world outside of the US, not just in Mexico!), but I *don’t* believe everything I read in the papers. Having driven the drive a number of times over the last year and having had my wife and numerous friends work in the slums and garbage dumps of Tijuana, I just haven’t seen the ubiquitous violence most US media is claiming.


38 posted on 05/11/2010 9:22:05 PM PDT by pcgTheDestroyer
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To: Bullish

I think the idea is that the chances of an American being willing to pay the bribe is higher than a Mexican being willing to do so.

And BTW, I didn’t call you a liar or even insinuate it. I simply said that you cannot just “ask anyone who lives in SoCal”—I live in SoCal and I just cannot agree with what “everyone” here “knows”. To repeat myself, I’m not saying it doesn’t happen (and whether it happened to you or friends is immaterial as evidence that it happens to everyone). It certainly sucks when it does happen, the whole arresting and beating and throwing into Mexican prison... I’m just suspicious that it’s not quite as widespread as all that. No offense intended, brah. :-)


39 posted on 05/11/2010 9:25:15 PM PDT by pcgTheDestroyer
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To: Windflier
Good for you!
40 posted on 05/11/2010 9:25:39 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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