Posted on 05/11/2010 6:39:03 PM PDT by Al B.
(CNN) – A prominent conservative is issuing an ultimatum, essentially telling the candidate he supports to do better in the polls – or lose his support.
Erick Erickson, editor-in-chief of RedState.com, backs Assemblyman Chuck DeVore in the California Republican senate primary. DeVore is locked in a battle with former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and former Rep. Tom Campbell for the right to face Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer in November.
Speaking Tuesday with CNN Chief National Correspondent John King, Erickson – a CNN contributor - said he won't support DeVore much longer if the candidate does not improve his political standing.
"Look, if Chuck DeVore hasn't gone up in the polls within two weeks significantly, I'll be with Carly Fiorina because Tom Campbell is that bad," Erickson said.
(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...
This article from a couple of weeks ago, says that DeVore has three weeks to get his poll numbers up to make any difference in the California GOP Senate Primary or he's pretty much dead in the water.
That's just one week from now and he's still a distant third in that GOP Senate Primary...
By Sean J. Miller - 04/27/10 10:30 AM ET
State Assemblyman Chuck DeVore (R) has three weeks to bring up his poll numbers or he risks becoming irrelevant in the three-way race for the California Republican Senate nomination, according to the Los Angeles Times.
DeVore has garnered the support of national conservative and Tea Party groups, as did Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) during his run, but that hasn't translated into a surge in campaign donations or support in the polls. He raised some $625,000 in the first quarter, but had only $411,000 banked at the end of March. In a recent Los Angeles Times/USC poll, he had the support of only 9 percent of likely GOP primary voters.
DeVore attributed his poor poll numbers to his title as state assemblyman.
"Ballot titles matter a lot in California," DeVore said at a Family Action PAC luncheon at the Pacific Club in Newport Beach. "They called me a California state assemblyman. That's like saying Chuck DeVore's a thief. My actual title is assemblyman/military reservist. In our internal polling, that change alone doubled my support, when people found out I was not merely a scum-sucking politician."
The Times notes with absentee ballots set to go out in the second week in May, time is running out for DeVore.
"Before people totally discount someone like Chuck DeVore, you have to give it another three weeks," said Larry Gerston, a professor at San Jose State University. "At that point, if it hasn't kicked in yet, I think you can start issuing a post-mortem."
The primary vote is in June.
abc = anybody but Campbell
How long before the Calls for him to drop out and support Carly. SurveyUSA released a poll today stating Devore at 15%. They have to stop Campbell at all costs.
I don’t like Carly Fiorina, and even less after watching that video that FR is attaching to threads. But this guy is right. Either de Vore gets going, or we need to back Fiorina as the best of the remaining three.
It was the same with Duncan Hunter. A good man, but he was never able to get off the ground.
I don’t vote in California, but this is just my opinion.
further on down in it, you see the following ...
Republican Senate Primary
The GOP battle to face incumbent Democratic U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer in November remained essentially unchanged.
The CBS 5 poll shows former Congressman Tom Campbell defeats former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, 35% to 24%. State assembly member Chuck DeVore gets 15% and 23% are undecided.
Now, look at it if you take the 24% for Carly Fiorina and if DeVore did not "split off" (in that primary) his 15% ... then basically Carly Fiorina could whacked Campbell with 39% Fiorina to 35% Campbell with 23% undecided.
You can easily see why DeVore turns out to be the "spoiler" to ruin the chances of getting rid of Boxer. And even if Campbell were to do that... you've got the worst of those three (Campbell, Fiorina, DeVore) -- in Campbell winning.
DeVore had no chance at all and all "he played" in the game -- was basically a "spoiler" role ...
I saw him on stage with Hannity and Fiorina. I don’t think Chuck DeVore is the type to drop out.
I saw him on stage with Hannity and Fiorina. I don’t think Chuck DeVore is the type to drop out.
You're probably right ... more in the role of a "spoiler" than for the good of conservatives ... in getting rid of Boxer.
Either de Vore gets going, or we need to back Fiorina as the best of the remaining three.
Well, with me... DeVore should never get going with stuff like this ...
The text of his rebuttal statement ...
To go back to the previous question though, I think it's very important what's going on in Afghanistan. It's very important that we understand that the Taliban and Al Qaeda does not present an existential threat to the United States. [emphasis is his]
They don't have an industrial base; they don't have armies. They're terrorists. Now, because of the fact that Afghanistan has no means of national support for a large army -- where is the end-game? [emphasis his] Are you proposing that we just stay in Afghanistan until they develop a modern economy and a modern democracy?
For Heaven's sakes, their constitution was drafted by the French as part of the NATO mission and it envisions a strong central government which is inimical to Afghan culture and tradition. I'm an intelligence officer. I'm a lieutenant colonel. I've studied this issue. We need to kill our enemies. [emphasis his] We don't need to build a modern nation-state where one cannot exist for a hundred years.
It's as I've said before... this is nothing but the same lame type of thinking that existed prior to the 9/11 attack.
Take a look at it this way. They didn't have a modern army back before 9/11 either. They didn't have the national support for a large army back then either, prior to 9/11. They weren't a modern nation-state back then, prior to 9/11 either.
BUT, in spite of that, they did great damage to the U.S. and it's economy and caused us to bring our own full military power to bear -- and we're still bringing it to bear now.
Chuck DeVore wants to act like a liberal and "cut and run" from the way I see it. And he's using the "justification" to do it -- that "they don't have an army; they can't support an army; they are not a modern nation-state" ... and by saying "where is the end-game" ... he's proposing the "cut-and-run" solution that we all have heard about from the Marxist/Leftists/Liberals... except that now -- Chuch DeVore is one of them ...
Sure, just like the Democrats... "kill our enemies" ... yeah sure ... LOL ...
I'm guessing that the next thing you'll hear from Chuck DeVore is "Don't forget to read them their miranda rights, too ... :-) ...
Nope, we don't need any more liberals in dealing with terrrorists -- taking a seat in the United States Senate... stay home, Chuck DeVore...
Also, as I said in Post #27 ...
Well, I see that's the problem that certain types like DeVore have. Before 9/11 there were a lot of "supposition" about Al Qaeda and what could happen in the way of a major terrorist attack. I know as I followed it back then in the late 90s and all the way up to 9/11. And I'm seeing and hearing the same "pre-9/11 rhetoric" now ... once again ...
A lot of people back then dismissed things too ... until the "facts came in" -- those "facts" are now called "9/11" ...
Well, we don't need anyone waiting for those "facts" like 9/11 to arrive, before they will treat things like the Taliban and Al Qaeda as existential threats (as the Bush Administration had no problem doing and they did treat them as existential threats; unlike this Obama Administration and unlike Chuck DeVore).
Sorry, I'm going to go on what is the supposition from known experience that we've already had in the past ... and I'm not waiting for the "facts" of a nuked metropolitan area to "confirm the theory" ...
Chuck DeVore can stay out of the Senate with the attitude that the Taliban and Al Qaeda represent no existential threat to the United States. I don't want to have to be telling him the "facts" of a nuked city -- after it happens ...
And as I said in Post #13
That is nothing but pre-9/11 "thinking" that got us into this trouble in the first place ... thinking that they were no threat to us... yeah! until they did that on 9/11 ... hoo-boy!
And yet again, it's exactly this type of "thinking" that Chuck DeVore exhibits here, that will lead to the next major attack on the United States by either the Taliban or Al Qaeda or any of the Muslim terrorists working out of that general region.
The Bush Administration made a real point of that (i.e., the threat being very real and existential) ... and we could be talking about weapons of mass destruction, like biological, affecting millions upon millions of people, or nukes, taking about two or three or four major metropolitan areas.
But, even if they did take out three major metropolitan areas, at once, with nukes -- would that cause the U.S. to cease to exist... nope! However, it would exist in a radically different world, afterwards -- just like that radically different world after 9/11.
Apparently some people want to have that happen first -- before they perceive an "existential threat" to the U.S. -- it sure sounds like "pre-9/11 thinking" to me... and so, I think that's a sure sign that many have slipped back into that disinterested thinking of pre-9/11...
And if we've got this guy, Chuck DeVore in that pre-9/11 thinking too... as evidenced by what he just said -- then we don't need him in the U.S. Senate, at all.
If that’s the case then he deservse all crap that will be coming his way.
What is De Vore’s problem?
I imagine name ID is his problem, if that’s the direction of your question.
The GOP battle to face incumbent US Senator Democrat Barbara Boxer in November remains essentially unchanged.
Today, former Congressman Tom Campbell defeats former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, 35% to 24%.
State assembly member Chuck DeVore gets 15%.
Limited movement since SurveyUSA’s previous poll.
23% are undecided: Among men, Campbell had led by 8 points, now leads by 12; among women, Campbell had led by 5, now 10.
DeVore is up 5 points among voters age 18 to 49, Campbell is down 5, Fiorina is down 10.
Among voters age 50+, Campbell is up 6.
In California’s Inland Empire, Fiorina had led by 6 points, now trails by 5.
Campbell’s lead in the Bay Area is now smaller, but his lead in greater Los Angeles is now larger.
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Campbell is waltzing away with the nomination.
Or just plain $$$, all us conservatives are just plain tapped out!
He is up against some heavy hitters and just can’t get his word out!
Erickson really wants DeVore so he is willing to wait to the bitter last moment. Most folks know, that moment has already passed. We will see.. send another hundred quick! :)
That, too. Goes with name ID....you either buy it or you have it. :)
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It looks like DeVore is defently splitting the vote.
I couldn’t care less if Tom Campbell beats Fiorina either. Two sides of the same RINO
defently = defiantly
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